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Anyone Else Surprised or Disappointed That Harry
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 11, 2020, 06:52:35 PM ---In what way? Betrayal suggests that it was a deliberate attempt to hurt her. What they did was between them, what they are guilty of is indifference. She was the last person Harry would think of in his pain, suicides don't think of others, only their own pain. Kincaid saw it only as a job that would make him some pocket money. Kincaid is a killer, that is what he does, thinking that killing Harry would hurt Ivy, never entered his mind.
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I think it did cross Kincaid’s mind, he is not stupid, but he could not refuse. Harry called in a debt. It did not cross Harry’s mind that he would hurt Ivy as suicides often do not get that they are betraying people by leaving them.
Dina:
I was very surprised and angry at Harry not doing as much of a nod or a smile to Ivy. I still think he did not know that Ivy would find his suicide attempt.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 11, 2020, 06:52:35 PM ---In what way? Betrayal suggests that it was a deliberate attempt to hurt her. What they did was between them, what they are guilty of is indifference. She was the last person Harry would think of in his pain, suicides don't think of others, only their own pain. Kincaid saw it only as a job that would make him some pocket money. Kincaid is a killer, that is what he does, thinking that killing Harry would hurt Ivy, never entered his mind.
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I disagree, Mira. Kinkaid did not want to do the killing ,he did it because he owned Harry and perhaps because he agreed with him. Being dead was better than become a monster, and none of them had faith in Harry keeping his humanity after becoming a WK. So I think Kinkaid actually wanted to help Harry, perhaps humanity and...Ivy herself, who would be disappointed if Harry changed and became a monster.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I disagree, Mira. Kinkaid did not want to do the killing ,he did it because he owned Harry and perhaps because he agreed with him. Being dead was better than become a monster, and none of them had faith in Harry keeping his humanity after becoming a WK. So I think Kinkaid actually wanted to help Harry, perhaps humanity and...Ivy herself, who would be disappointed if Harry changed and became a monster.
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You could be right, but that wasn't Eb's take on him in Blood Rites. Now Eb could be wrong, hopefully he is wrong about the White Court, but he seemed to have the same hate for Kincaid. The question then becomes, why?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2020, 12:05:13 AM ---You could be right, but that wasn't Eb's take on him in Blood Rites. Now Eb could be wrong, hopefully he is wrong about the White Court, but he seemed to have the same hate for Kincaid. The question then becomes, why?
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Because Eb has a very strong opinion about the monsters. All of them.
StrayDog:
Indifference is a betrayal too. What did Mab say about hate and love? She thinks logic is the opposite but it actually is indifference / apathy.
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