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Anyone Else Surprised or Disappointed That Harry
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 11, 2020, 04:55:05 AM ---Suicides don't think things through, they cannot see beyond their own pain.
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Sure and red court half vampires don't think things through, they can not see beyond their bloodlust.
The dresden files are full of that kind of thing. They still count as free willed choices with sometimes big effects. Sometimes someone is there to help you like when Harry had to not kill Rudolph. As I read it killing Rudolph would have had bad consequences for Harry's soul. Emotionally it would be completely understandable.
--- Quote ---They may think they are thinking things though, but their judgement is clouded by their severe emotional pain. Harry's thinking here cannot be seen as rational, because it wasn't because in that moment his mind was very sick and to make matters worse there was one of the Fallen cheering him on to guarantee he'd do the job. So it was when Harry suicided..
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So it was but the white council's laws are not everything.
Morally the first consent was fine because it was made in a healthy state of mind and it resulted in both parties more sane and healthy and strong.
The second one was clouded by negative and suicidal emotions and unhealthy emotional pressures. Both are similarly allowed by a strict interpretation of the councils laws but their moral difference is clear and after reading ghost story the difference in effects on Molly is clear too.
It is like giving consent when you are drunk or under a white court vampires influence. It is not the same.
--- Quote ---Oh right, forgot about that, but all the same I wouldn't call Kincaid Murphy's mantoy.. Any more than she was his girltoy.. That is totally disrespectful to both, who were adults, and enjoyed each other's company for a time.
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Yes it implies a verdict about the quality of their relation and we know nothing about that. Jim promised us a short story about those two in Hawai.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 11, 2020, 07:51:09 AM ---@Dina
Ghost Story isn't on my list of favorites either. Cold Days pretty much ended the series for me. It tied up a lot of loose ends from the first half of the books. And I can't get too vested going forward since I don't think I can get to the end. There's a really good book inside Peace Talks and Battle Ground but it's buried under a lot of dross.
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I rate Ghost story far above battle ground. It has things like plot, world building, characterizations and wonderful dialog. It is not just one big battle.
Especially everything Lea, Just read the parts with her in it.
Dina:
After SG, a lot of my love for the DF was back. And now, after BG, I am finally beginning to want to reread the whole series. It will take me a long time, though, because I decided to reread the duology first. I am on chapter 12 of PT, so about 1/6 of the total.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 11, 2020, 08:49:45 AM ---After SG, a lot of my love for the DF was back. And now, after BG, I am finally beginning to want to reread the whole series. It will take me a long time, though, because I decided to reread the duology first. I am on chapter 12 of PT, so about 1/6 of the total.
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I seldom reread everything at once. I usually pick favorite scenes and Ghost story has a few of them.
Dina:
I do that from time to time but randomly. For instance, one day I feel like rereading one particular scene of a book and I do it. When I do that I usually end reading 4 or 5 chapters :)
But all my books (including Changes, but not GS or CD) had a cover to ending reread not long after the first read.
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