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The one thing in battleground the bugged me: [BG Spoilers]

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Cymbaline:

--- Quote from: Shift8 on October 04, 2020, 06:16:11 PM ---Right but we know that stuff was still working. Assuming every single device was taken out, especially given the large numbers, doesnt fly. Murphys motorcycle was able to start, for one. I'd have to reread it but my intuition tells me there were many things working, implied or otherwise, that were taken for granted before the council tried to claim this as a reason it will be easy to hide this event.

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Murphy was able to start her Harley because she kept it behind wards.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Cymbaline on October 04, 2020, 09:18:59 PM ---Murphy was able to start her Harley because she kept it behind wards.

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Was it behind wards when everything went down?  Did the spell that shorted out everything just go away?  Since she had no magical power of her own, how did she keep the bike warded?  Why didn't she offer it to Harry when he had to "borrow" a bicycle to get to the castle?  How is it with knee, shoulder, and elbow still weak and injured could she right a motorcycle in the first place?

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Shift8 on October 04, 2020, 06:35:23 PM ---Sorry but this is just absurd.

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yes it is absurd, I find the holocaust deniers absurd too, but they do exist... And nobody even tried to cover that up, we promote it as an important part of history. Military assets, both human and technology are routinely kept silent to the public. The masses no nothing of what happened but what they are exposed to. not saying it will work forever, but by and large for the purposes of the story it is going to have effect. And it's not like it's just the government trying to cover it up, all the supernatural apparently plan to do so as well.

Shift8:

--- Quote from: TrueMonk on October 04, 2020, 09:14:48 PM ---As I read it the blast at the end of peace talks was the intentionally hex everything blast. So the people in the know who keeps stuff like a motorcycle and walkie talkies protected within magical circles still have functioning electronics, everyone else don't. Then when they take those electronics out of the circles they start breaking down fast because of all the magical energy in the air, but that is very far from the super hex in the beginning.

That attack helicopters arrive after Titania's water cleansing of the city and after dawn, so that is entirely different.

It does not seem odd to me that the army can send choppers to shoot stuff and make the pilots not talk aboit it afterwards and disappear the footage.

If it happened today and we knew about the losses, and then someone said that the magical frog people did it. I honestly think it would take quite some time before (of ever) the majority of people would take that seriously over chemical weapons of some sort and other advanced weaponry. But I think you are right about that someone needs to be blamed for it to be semi-believeable. Some middle eastern country maybe?

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-The Fomor didnt seem to think that it would have mattered if Titania did her thing or not. Nor do any of the other people in the books seem to think this would matter. The arrival of the cavalry, literally the cavalry, is foreshadowed the entire time. It is never once implied that mortal forces would have any difficulty whatsoever handling the Formor. Both sides were racing agaisnt time. For the defenders of the city, it was to last long enough for them to arrive. The Fomor  discussion we overhear makes it quite clear that they are very concerned with still being in the city by the time the Army arrives. If they thought they could be dealt with simply by flooding the area with magic, they were apparently clueless to this.

-I went over blaming this on terrorists or some middle eastern country. Not going to work. Not even remotely possible or believable.

Telynn:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 04, 2020, 10:03:58 PM ---Was it behind wards when everything went down?  Did the spell that shorted out everything just go away?  Since she had no magical power of her own, how did she keep the bike warded?  Why didn't she offer it to Harry when he had to "borrow" a bicycle to get to the castle?  How is it with knee, shoulder, and elbow still weak and injured could she right a motorcycle in the first place?

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I eyed the motorcycle. Then her. “How?”

“Like I don’t keep this old baby behind wards,” she said. “The Ordo Lebes did it for me years ago. And bikes are the only things that can get through the streets.”

As for your other questions, no clue.  Except I felt Murphy being to do just about anything after ripping her casts off was way unbelievable anyway so riding a motorcycle wasn't the biggest problem there.

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