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The one thing in battleground the bugged me: [BG Spoilers]
Shift8:
Edited to remove spoiler content from subject.
- Griff
One of the most exciting things of the entire battleground book in my opinion was the scene where the Apache attack helicopters come at the end and royally fuck up the retreating Fomor. I waiting the entire book just for that scene, which I felt like I knew was coming the entire time since the arrival of the National Guard was foreshadowed numerous times. One of the best parts of the Dresden files more me has always been the relevance of the mortal world. In the DF, guns are not useless weapons. Magic and the supernatural are just different kinds of threats, and the combination of the two adds tremendous flavor the series.
In my head during the book I was hoping for a scene where a main battle tank arrives down a street and puts a sabot through some big baddie, but the helicopters were cool enough.
But the disappointing thing is that even though it is repeatedly stated over and over that this battle is simply to big to be covered up or missed, at the end of the book everyone is saying that it is successfully being covered up.
Sorry, but I call BS. Suspension of disbelief officially suspended. There is no fucking way that 8000 monsters attack a city, killing 20-60,000 people (the book listed different figures at different times), prompting the involvement of the military.......and it gets covered up. Eight Million people saw this shit go down. There is tons of destruction everywhere. Too. many. witnesses.
Also this story took place in time parallel to our own. Too many electronic devices to record things with, and too many ways for that information to leave the city. The explanation at the end about electronics and magic was bullshit. There are probably more phones and computers in Chicago than there are people. And not all of them would have been affected. Even in the places where there was the most reality breakdown due to magic, someones phone or camera was probably working. And Chicago is a big place. There were probably people who recorded things from a distance from tall buildings etc just like during natural disasters like the explosions that occurred in China not too long ago. Also we know for a fact, not even a conjecture, that at least some electronics were working in close proximity to the battle. The attack helicopters. There systems were clearly working or they would not have been able to operating their guns or even fly for that matter. Comms in and out of the city must have been working in come capacity as well, or how else did the NG and other emergency services even get called in or organized?
I really hope that in the next novel this gets undone and it the mortal world comes into knowledge of the supernatural. I think this will take the story in a very interesting direction.
Telynn:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on October 04, 2020, 04:14:33 PM ---One of the most exciting things of the entire battleground book in my opinion was the scene where the Apache attack helicopters come at the end and royally fuck up the retreating Fomor. I waiting the entire book just for that scene, which I felt like I knew was coming the entire time since the arrival of the National Guard was foreshadowed numerous times. One of the best parts of the Dresden files more me has always been the relevance of the mortal world. In the DF, guns are not useless weapons. Magic and the supernatural are just different kinds of threats, and the combination of the two adds tremendous flavor the series.
In my head during the book I was hoping for a scene where a main battle tank arrives down a street and puts a sabot through some big baddie, but the helicopters were cool enough.
But the disappointing thing is that even though it is repeatedly stated over and over that this battle is simply to big to be covered up or missed, at the end of the book everyone is saying that it is successfully being covered up.
Sorry, but I call BS. Suspension of disbelief officially suspended. There is no fucking way that 8000 monsters attack a city, killing 20-60,000 people (the book listed different figures at different times), prompting the involvement of the military.......and it gets covered up. Eight Million people saw this shit go down. There is tons of destruction everywhere. Too. many. witnesses.
Also this story took place in time parallel to our own. Too many electronic devices to record things with, and too many ways for that information to leave the city. The explanation at the end about electronics and magic was bullshit. There are probably more phones and computers in Chicago than there are people. And not all of them would have been affected. Even in the places where there was the most reality breakdown due to magic, someones phone or camera was probably working. And Chicago is a big place. There were probably people who recorded things from a distance from tall buildings etc just like during natural disasters like the explosions that occurred in China not too long ago. Also we know for a fact, not even a conjecture, that at least some electronics were working in close proximity to the battle. The attack helicopters. There systems were clearly working or they would not have been able to operating their guns or even fly for that matter. Comms in and out of the city must have been working in come capacity as well, or how else did the NG and other emergency services even get called in or organized?
I really hope that in the next novel this gets undone and it the mortal world comes into knowledge of the supernatural. I think this will take the story in a very interesting direction.
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What I'm thinking is it will be in the later books that this slowly spreads and things start changing. Plus there is NO WAY it is business as usual in Chicago. Maybe they can convince the masses around the nation and world (there will be a HUGE 'conspiracy theory type group that doesn't buy it), but the people of Chicago know better. It will interesting to see how Jim plays this out in the upcoming books. there just wasn't time in this one to expound on it.
The_Sibelis:
It becomes stuff of rumor and hearsay beyond someone who experienced it. A good RL example is the death camps during WW2, we'd heard tell they exist, not even all the german troops bore witness to them until shown after the war. And the war was outright denied in Cuba leading to the famous Remington quote,"if you furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war." Also part of why they left auswitz, "one monument to the horrors perpetuated will do more to prevent it's reoccurrence than any history book or retelling ever will."(probably futzed that quote a little, but it conveys the idea readily enough.
Arjan:
Everyone in power wants to cover it up including the mortals. That does not mean they will ultimately succeed but it is a strong force. There is a rack in it and it will only get wider but we don’t get a completely different world in one day, it will take some time.
Shift8:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 04, 2020, 04:35:44 PM ---It becomes stuff of rumor and hearsay beyond someone who experienced it. A good RL example is the death camps during WW2, we'd heard tell they exist, not even all the german troops bore witness to them until shown after the war. And the war was outright denied in Cuba leading to the famous Remington quote,"if you furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war." Also part of why they left auswitz, "one monument to the horrors perpetuated will do more to prevent it's reoccurrence than any history book or retelling ever will."(probably futzed that quote a little, but it conveys the idea readily enough.
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Sorry, not the same thing at all. The death camps were somewhat sequestered from the general public, and even still rumors abounded (and higher ups knew it for a fact). Hiding the Chicago incident would be more like trying to tell Japan nukes dont exist after Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
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