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The one thing in battleground the bugged me: [BG Spoilers]
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on October 04, 2020, 05:12:58 PM ---Sorry, not the same thing at all. The death camps were somewhat sequestered from the general public, and even still rumors abounded (and higher ups knew it for a fact). Hiding the Chicago incident would be more like trying to tell Japan nukes dont exist after Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
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Nuclear bombs are natural. There is some sort of inner resistance in most mortals against really seeing the supernatural for what it is. A lot of people accept any explanation above the supernatural one. I think there is a supernatural explanation for that.
morriswalters:
This is discussed at the end of the book. How a major terrorist attack was declared. But everyone in the country would want a face to hate. And they would want blood. Look at the butchers bill from one attack which killed 3000 people. Google Maps takes street view pictures daily, somewhere, and if the cameras didn't work during the devastation, they would start working afterword and YouTube would be full of it. This isn't 1945.
Griffyn612:
I think the implication was that the first blast took out every electronic device within miles. Anything with a battery plugged in.
At that point, you think maybe some folks had devices without batteries in them, and they survived the blast. They loaded the batteries in to video tape the craziness outside...
And another blast fires and fries everything within miles.
Wave after wave of Murphionic energy was likely enough to truly, genuinely take out all electronic recording devices, and possibly fry hard drives and memory cards in the process.
Maybe there are film cameras out there with some shots. But how many clear shots did they get with no lights anywhere? Just pitch black night to take pictures from too far away to see anything.
I'm sure some footage would survive somehow, but then you'll have the Librarians sweeping in to steal that like they did with the loup video years earlier.
It's going to boil down to millions of people not seeing anything, millions seeing stuff and going into denial, and millions seeing stuff and believing.
And remember, Harry isn't the one saying things are contained. The others are. Harry is saying things are definitely out and they should plan accordingly. So despite all the efforts of the government and the Librarians and the Wamps and the rest, the seal has been broken.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on October 04, 2020, 05:12:58 PM ---Sorry, not the same thing at all. The death camps were somewhat sequestered from the general public, and even still rumors abounded (and higher ups knew it for a fact). Hiding the Chicago incident would be more like trying to tell Japan nukes dont exist after Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
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that isn't even the same at all sorry. Trying to tell Hiro and Naga nukes don't exist is like telling chicago it never happened, that's NOT what they are trying to do. They are controlling the hear say that reaches beyond which is EXACTLY the same. Americans had heard of the camps, Germans had heard of them, but if you didn't see them they just weren't real to you. Plausible deniability in the extreme.
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 04, 2020, 05:55:27 PM ---I think the implication was that the first blast took out every electronic device within miles. Anything with a battery plugged in.
At that point, you think maybe some folks had devices without batteries in them, and they survived the blast. They loaded the batteries in to video tape the craziness outside...
And another blast fires and fries everything within miles.
Wave after wave of Murphionic energy was likely enough to truly, genuinely take out all electronic recording devices, and possibly fry hard drives and memory cards in the process.
Maybe there are film cameras out there with some shots. But how many clear shots did they get with no lights anywhere? Just pitch black night to take pictures from too far away to see anything.
I'm sure some footage would survive somehow, but then you'll have the Librarians sweeping in to steal that like they did with the loup video years earlier.
It's going to boil down to millions of people not seeing anything, millions seeing stuff and going into denial, and millions seeing stuff and believing.
And remember, Harry isn't the one saying things are contained. The others are. Harry is saying things are definitely out and they should plan accordingly. So despite all the efforts of the government and the Librarians and the Wamps and the rest, the seal has been broken.
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Right but we know that stuff was still working. Assuming every single device was taken out, especially given the large numbers, doesnt fly. Murphys motorcycle was able to start, for one. I'd have to reread it but my intuition tells me there were many things working, implied or otherwise, that were taken for granted before the council tried to claim this as a reason it will be easy to hide this event.
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