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Did Mab break her word to Harry in Battle Ground?
Mira:
--- Quote ---The exact wording is "Should I fall, I have one last command you would be wise to fulfill. Kill Molly Carpenter. As quickly as possible." Harry asks why and Mab explains "As Winter Lady she shows promise. But she is not ready to become Mab. The consequences would be unsettling....for both of you. Perhaps for all of winter"
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But by the words, "you would be wise to fulfill," Mab is leaving it up to Harry. It is a suggestion, and she is warning him if he doesn't do it, it could go very wrong. However she isn't telling him he must do it, and there doesn't seem to be any force that would make him do it.
Wrane:
--- Quote from: vultur on October 01, 2020, 04:42:28 AM ---Hmm. So I wonder how she could say that at all. "The stars shall fall from the sky when Mab keeps not her word" IIRC.
Possibly there is some trick involving it being a conditional order - "Should I fall". IE it's not really an order until Mab is dead, and therefore breaking her word is impossible/irrelevant?
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Are we agreed that during the BAT stars will fall and Mab will break her word? or will Mab breaking her word lead to the stars falling.
forumghost:
My personal take on that is that if the stars are falling from the sky, it means the Outer Gates have fallen, and Mab has failed in her duty (and is probably dead).
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: cbarrett76 on September 30, 2020, 09:02:55 PM ---Battle Ground spoliers below:
So Mab basically tells Harry that if she falls in the battle her final order to him would be to kill Molly because she worries what kind of "Mab" Molly would be. But when Harry took the mantle of winter knight, wasn't one of his conditions that Mab never order him to harm his friends or family? Did she just give him an "out" for the Mantle if he wants to take it? Am I missing something?
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Both yes and no I suppose.
Yes, this order is against the previous bargain and No, it does not break her words or at least it does not matter if Mab broke her words anyway.
This order is only effective if Mab died. If Mab died stars will indeed fall from the sky and it does not matter if she broke her word. She is dead. The binding of fae nature that does not allow her to lie or break her promise is not effective anymore.
Mira:
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This order is only effective if Mab died. If Mab died stars will indeed fall from the sky and it does not matter if she broke her word. She is dead. The binding of fae nature that does not allow her to lie or break her promise is not effective anymore.
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Or when she died and the Queen's mantle passed to Molly, Molly would no longer be, Molly. So in essence, Harry wouldn't be killing a person he loved. That would be very Mabbish, don't you think? ::)
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