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Did Mab break her word to Harry in Battle Ground?

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cbarrett76:
Battle Ground spoliers below:


So Mab basically tells Harry that if she falls in the battle her final order to him would be to kill Molly because she worries what kind of "Mab"  Molly would be.  But when Harry took the mantle of winter knight, wasn't one of his conditions that Mab never order him to harm his friends or family?  Did she just give him an "out" for the Mantle if he wants to take it?  Am I missing something?

vultur:
Yeah, I think this would be covered by that, but I don't think Mab swore not to give such orders, I think Harry made not having to accept such orders a condition of his becoming Winter Knight.

A tenuous distinction for a human, but I think it matters for the Fae... I think Mab literally couldn't have said it if she'd sworn not to.

Thana†os:
in my PDF it's

Changes - pg 446

"...And you give me your word you will never command me to lift my hand against those I love."

Thougn Mab never expressly agreed to it. But could be considered part of the agreement since it was noted as a condition of his acceptance.

It's all kinda murky with Fae.

Yuillegan:
A lawyer might argue that the letter of that contract merely states Harry not "lift his hand" against "those he loves", both of which are too vague and also that killing Molly or "those he loves" doesn't necessarily require him to lift his hand. Dresden would be an awful lawyer.

Thana†os:
yeah but a contract also requires a "meeting of the minds" in order to be consider valid, e.g. Mab knew exactly what he meant, his intent and went with it anyway.

Still, we're not talking Magical Law...and Fae are masters at twisting it all to suit them.

But in any event, Mab knows that Harry is his own person and he will not go quietly into the night if she gives him an order like that. Still, for her to tell him to do it, you know there are some possibly dire consequences...

But lets hope by the end of things, Harry can untangle himself and Molly out of Winter's grasp.

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