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!!SPOILERS!! Battle Ground Thoughts and Recap !!SPOILERS!! READER BEWARE
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 30, 2020, 12:11:15 PM ---But Rudolph is a vanilla human, as upset as Harry was, trying to kill him with a Holy Sword, he didn't try to kill him with magic.
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Wait, what?
Harry didn't try to pick up the sword -- he tried to reach past it, thinking it couldn't cut him so he could just ignore it. The bad things happened when he hit the sword's blade with his forearm.
And Harry definitely tried to kill Rudolph with magic -- first by crushing him with his shield, then by firing lightning at him.
--- Quote from: knightedbishop on September 30, 2020, 12:15:55 PM ---The Sword definitely burned Harry. It also temporarily disable the WK mantle so he get all of his aches and pains. It was a warning- if he was truly evil the Sword would have cut him.
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Huh. You might be right. I'd read that as him suddenly realizing how badly burned his arm was, from overusing the shield bracelet earlier in the battle. But it does read like there's a new wound in addition.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 30, 2020, 12:11:15 PM ---Or a new wrinkle in how the Sword behaves. It got broken when misused by Murphy, it simply wouldn't let itself be misused by Harry in his anger and grief. Remember back in Grave Peril when Harry, out of fear tried to kill Lea with Michael's Sword, it fell out of his hand rather than let him misuse it. Think both Swords were also protecting Harry from a grave sin, murder, that he was about to commit.
What is interesting is the excuse the White Council used to kick Harry out. That supposedly he used magic to kill a couple of Fomor/humans, most likely Turtlenecks. But Rudolph is a vanilla human, as upset as Harry was, trying to kill him with a Holy Sword, he didn't try to kill him with magic.
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The white councils definition of human is flexible apparently and it also inconsistent because if Harry really had broken the law they should put him on the death list of dangerous sorcerers and start actively hunting him, and not push him out unless they do not consider him human anymore.
En will explode when he hears about him and Lara ;D
Mira:
--- Quote ---And Harry definitely tried to kill Rudolph with magic -- first by crushing him with his shield, then by firing lightning at him.
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Yet, he managed to run away didn't he? If Harry meant to kill him with magic, he would have been dead.
--- Quote ---The white councils definition of human is flexible apparently and it also inconsistent because if Harry really had broken the law they should put him on the death list of dangerous sorcerers and start actively hunting him, and not push him out unless they do not consider him human anymore.
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Yeah, it sounds a lot more like the Doom part 2. Only under the original Doom, Harry could still be a member of the White Council. If Harry was indeed guilty of breaking the First Law, then instead of handing him his walking papers and telling him to be a good boy and not to act like a wizard anymore, Carlos should have brought a crew to take him down and behead him.. Is Harry seen in the same league as Kemmler now?
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 30, 2020, 01:23:55 PM ---Yet, he managed to run away didn't he? If Harry meant to kill him with magic, he would have been dead.
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Um. What?
It sounds like you're saying that you don't think Harry wanted to kill Rudy, or that he didn't try to use magic to do it. Twice.
Do you mean that at some deeper level, there was a part of Harry that was fighting it? (I think that's probably true.)
Arjan:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 30, 2020, 01:33:41 PM ---Um. What?
It sounds like you're saying that you don't think Harry wanted to kill Rudy, or that he didn't try to use magic to do it. Twice.
Do you mean that at some deeper level, there was a part of Harry that was fighting it? (I think that's probably true.)
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He did want to kill Rudolph but did he want to kill him with magic? Or was the magic only meant to soften him up and scare him?
Maybe he wanted him to suffer first.from magic.
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