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!!SPOILERS!! Battle Ground Thoughts and Recap !!SPOILERS!! READER BEWARE

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on September 30, 2020, 08:25:35 AM ---If there's a time based opening I'm pretty sure it'll be one that's a lot shorter than a decade and a half otherwise there's tens of millions of them.My point was that Eb specialises in the kind of magic that Blood Rites showed gets around the defence without a problem, just don't think too hard about the backstory one liner lest you start poking holes in it.That's what I meant, Harry in general is safe from the sword most days. Harry in that specific moment in BG was pretty close to going full darkside and so got burnt.

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Just like Susan can not touch the sword in one book and can become a knight in another. Harry even explained it in changes when he gives the sword to her.

The angel in the sword makes its own decisions based on its purpose. It did not want to kill Harry, it wanted to save Harry with butters help and a burn did the job.

ClintACK:
I don't think the Sword *burned* Harry at all.

Harry wasn't just set on revenge, in his hate and despair he'd turned over control entirely to the Winter Mantle. The Sword just burned out the Mantle for a moment, leaving Harry to feel all the pain he'd accumulated in the battle -- including a left arm that was charred to the elbow from overuse of the shield bracelet.

Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 30, 2020, 11:01:54 AM ---I don't think the Sword *burned* Harry at all.

Harry wasn't just set on revenge, in his hate and despair he'd turned over control entirely to the Winter Mantle. The Sword just burned out the Mantle for a moment, leaving Harry to feel all the pain he'd accumulated in the battle -- including a left arm that was charred to the elbow from overuse of the shield bracelet.

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Or a new wrinkle in how the Sword behaves.  It got broken when misused by Murphy, it simply wouldn't let itself be misused by Harry in his anger and grief.  Remember back in Grave Peril when Harry, out of fear tried to kill Lea with Michael's Sword, it fell out of his hand rather than let him misuse it.  Think both Swords were also protecting Harry from a grave sin, murder, that he was about to commit.

What is interesting is the excuse the White Council used to kick Harry out.  That supposedly he used magic to kill a couple of Fomor/humans, most likely Turtlenecks.  But Rudolph is a vanilla human, as upset as Harry was, trying to kill him with a Holy Sword, he didn't try to kill him with magic.

kel0700:
Would someone be able to explain to me this new winter Knight ability Harry has, "the banner" , mab said few winter knights had the power to manifest it, is it the ability to enlist and order fae from winter to fight for Harry? Can this ability be used all the time?

knightedbishop:
The Sword definitely burned Harry. It also temporarily disable the WK mantle so he get all of his aches and pains. It was a warning- if he was truly evil the Sword would have cut him.

When the mantle kicks back in Harry’s aches and pains subside. Except the pain of the burn the Sword inflicted. Mab noticed the Sword burn and was jealous- mourning her lost humanity, I think.

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