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We Now Know What/Who Mac Is

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Conspiracy Theorist:
McAnally’s, Demonreach and the Carpenters are all supernatural bomb shelters, each for their own reason and each can withstand the Eye of Balor. It is interesting that Harry has placed each of the three people he loves in each one of them.

The Placard is a superthreshold, it cant protect against mundane weapons, but someone within its protection could probably survive an energy attack like the eye of Balor, or a curse like a death curse or an entropy curse launched from outside, and would strip someone not invited by Mac of their power. Theoretically it may even render someone immortal killable like the Stone Table should they come in uninvited. That’s why I think it is also a trap for Ethnui, as well as a protection from her, should she pass the threshold without invitation, Harry might be able to kill her DED with the  Athame and her power siphoned off into Mac (it has to go somewhere, on the Table it goes to the Court holding it, on Halloween it goes to mortals. It would make sense it goes to the person empowering the Placard, and I don’t think Mac would explode, he could contain it).

Mira:

--- Quote ---McAnally’s, Demonreach and the Carpenters are all supernatural bomb shelters, each for their own reason and each can withstand the Eye of Balor. It is interesting that Harry has placed each of the three people he loves in each one of them.
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I totally doubt that Harry would have placed Murphy at Mac's bar if she had been fit to fight.  To begin with she would have neutered him for suggesting it, then would have gone on to do her best to kick ass.  If he wanted her totally safe, as he said, he would have left her on the island. 

The Placard and Mac, now that is interesting, I am wondering if Harry hadn't realized that Mac knew what it was, and what he might be, if Harry hadn't intended for Murphy to smear her blood on the back of it.  Thus anyone trying to get in would have to go through her.  However that seems unlikely because at the end of the day she is still semi-incapacitated.  I was a bit shocked that she argued with Harry at all to go with him into battle.  He had to push her to Mac's in a shopping cart because he needed to move out quickly to get done what he needs to do.  As a warrior, and I argued this at the end of Peace Talks, she should know her limits, her arguments for going were not rational.. I especially thought her telling Harry he didn't want to her to go because that he feels she'd be a "distraction" to him, beneath her.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 19, 2020, 01:55:57 PM ---I know she is safe, you know she is safe, Harry knows she is safe, however does Murphy want to be safe?  You know how she is, she has her own ideas and likes to do things her way.   I will be shocked if she remains inside Mac's place even if she can do an important job by remaining there.  I look for her to go out into the battle, the trailer shows her doing that.  Though I have real problems with how that is shown unless she gets a instant healing somewhere.  She came up from a squat to activate that rocket launcher, not a wiggle, wobble, or sign of pain, if you've ever suffered even a minor knee problem you know how hard it is to do that... Yes, take the trailer with a grain of salt, but evidently she does leave the bar to join the fight, whether that is wise or not, we will have to see in the book.

Oh, and the Carpenters are perfectly safe, Harry states that early in Peace Talks.  They are safe from all supernatural threats, and thanks to Molly, mortal as well..   And none of that explains Murphy not being there for Harry at Christmas, especially if she knows how down he is emotionally.  Not if she still loves him in any way.

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She just destroyed Chicago with a nuclear bomb. She feels guilty and depressed and does not want to confront the carpenters and the angel squad. Harry needs to be with his daughter.

Conspiracy Theorist:
It has to be the owner of the building that activates the Placard, but kill them and the Placard is deactivated. Mundane force can still be used, so Harry whilst protecting Murphy from Supernatural harm is relying on Murphy to protect Mac (and those sheltering in the bar) from mundane force, no one better than that, and if it is a trap, for Ethnui she and the P60 is the metal teeth of the trap.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 19, 2020, 04:18:51 PM ---It has to be the owner of the building that activates the Placard, but kill them and the Placard is deactivated. Mundane force can still be used, so Harry whilst protecting Murphy from Supernatural harm is relying on Murphy to protect Mac (and those sheltering in the bar) from mundane force, no one better than that, and if it is a trap, for Ethnui she and the P60 is the metal teeth of the trap.

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If that is true, it would be nice if she was in on it.. Doesn't sound like she is.

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