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Mantles and death curses
ClintACK:
Of course, we've learned that the soul is actually just a chunk of magical energy, too. So, perhaps wizards who cast death curses are actually consuming their own souls to cast the spell and ending up in oblivion, rather than moving on to the afterlife.
(We know that oblivion is possible, because in Ghost Story that was the risk Harry was facing.)
Not sure what to make of Eb's comment that Mavra might be able to throw one... No idea how BCVs work.
peregrine:
COULD a wizard with a mantle throw a death curse? Depending on the mantle, most seem to have some kind of self preservation instinct going on to maintain the mantle. If throwing a death curse would cause problems, I can see the mantle actually preventing that from happening.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on July 31, 2020, 04:42:54 PM ---Random bit.
Say there is a wizard with one of the “immortal” mantles.
Say said wizard is backed into a corner and uses a death curse.
Will the mantle re-form the wizard?
I am curious regarding Cowl in this regard.
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Molly for instance, no longer uses mortal magic, cause cell phone. So no death curse.
vultur:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 01, 2020, 03:22:43 AM ---Of course, we've learned that the soul is actually just a chunk of magical energy, too.
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I don't think it's quite that simple. Harry in GS is an unusual case for at least two reasons - he's in an odd state of being due to Uriel messing with things, and he has access to Soulfire.
If the soul was made of "regular" magical energy, I don't think Harry getting Soulfire from Uriel would be nearly as significant as it's treated as being. Bob talks about it like it's a totally new source to draw from.
--- Quote ---Not sure what to make of Eb's comment that Mavra might be able to throw one... No idea how BCVs work.
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I think Mavra draws on the same "dark" energy necromancers use.
(Harry says that Red Court vampire spellcasters do the same, in DB. Which is kind of odd, because RCVs aren't "undead" the way BCVs are. But it does fit the way Bianca's spells in GP are "dark-energy".)
As a BCV, Mavra is an "undead" animated corpse, presumably working off the same "dark energy". So if she used up all the energy animating her body, I think that would be the same as a living wizard burning all their "life force" in a death curse.
vultur:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 01, 2020, 03:38:06 AM ---Molly for instance, no longer uses mortal magic, cause cell phone. So no death curse.
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I dunno.
The fact that Molly usually uses "Faerie power" and therefore doesn't hex electronics, IMO, doesn't necessarily mean that she can't use her "mortal wizard" magic.
Also, Mavra doesn't use mortal magic, and apparently she can do a death curse.
I think most non-mortals don't do death curses, as a general rule, because they don't expect to actually die. (Rather like Grevane.)
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