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Peace Talks - What did you like? What didn't you like? What were you expecting?
wildone654:
Of all the internal thoughts of a fictional character have been observing.... possible judgment on someone in a threesome doesn't even through a blip on the radar for me.
I mean we've seen Harry mull over sexual assault on multiple occasions. If we wanted to send the thought police after him, intolerance for multi-partner relationships would not be top on my list of concerns.....
Though I still find the whole thing as rather random and out of place personally, so perhaps I'm just sympathetic to Harry's not knowing what to think about it.
morriswalters:
It isn't the sex, it's the why of it. What purpose does it have in the story? How does it move the plot forward. Short answer. It doesn't. It's suppose to add the gravitas a knight should have. It made sense with Thomas and it kind of makes sense with Freydis. Thomas is an incubus, Murphy spars with revenants, Michael kills dragons, Sanya gave up a coin and is built like a tank, and Shiro was a Master with the blade. They had a back story that lent credence to their role. Butters plays polka with a one man band rig and has a weightless sword that can't kill people. So, male shorthand 101.
Dina:
--- Quote from: wildone654 on July 25, 2020, 04:09:12 AM ---Of all the internal thoughts of a fictional character have been observing.... possible judgment on someone in a threesome doesn't even through a blip on the radar for me.
I mean we've seen Harry mull over sexual assault on multiple occasions. If we wanted to send the thought police after him, intolerance for multi-partner relationships would not be top on my list of concerns.....
Though I still find the whole thing as rather random and out of place personally, so perhaps I'm just sympathetic to Harry's not knowing what to think about it.
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That is ironical, as I defended Harry's inner thoughts several times. I've seen a lot of criticism in this forum about Harry predatory thoughts. Heck, I believe a person I know (not a close one so I am not sure) stopped reading the series because those thoughts were a trigger for her. I was always against those criticisms, because his reactions made sense for a person in his position and Jim showing us that was a way to understand things about Harry, like the strength of the mantle. But I don't understand why Jim chose to show that particular piece of Harry's mind. It's sort of judgemental. His original reaction (aloud, when talking with Butters) had been great. Surprise, of course, but nothing else. But now it is as if JB was saying "Don't trust people who says something is all right, not their business, they are mentally criticizing your behavior". Now that I think about that, perhaps that is why that part bothers me so much, it makes Harry an hypocrite.
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--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 25, 2020, 04:44:03 AM ---It isn't the sex, it's the why of it. What purpose does it have in the story? How does it move the plot forward. Short answer. It doesn't. It's suppose to add the gravitas a knight should have. It made sense with Thomas and it kind of makes sense with Freydis. Thomas is an incubus, Murphy spars with revenants, Michael kills dragons, Sanya gave up a coin and is built like a tank, and Shiro was a Master with the blade. They had a back story that lent credence to their role. Butters plays polka with a one man band rig and has a weightless sword that can't kill people. So, male shorthand 101.
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I don't understand what you are saying here.
morriswalters:
What does Butters having a menage a' trois do? How does it move the story forward? It isn't sexy or titillating, it's wasted space in a book short on almost everything. He's trying very hard to give the character weight and I'm of the opinion that a fight would have served the purpose better. However I'll let it go.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 25, 2020, 12:06:10 PM ---What does Butters having a menage a' trois do? How does it move the story forward? It isn't sexy or titillating, it's wasted space in a book short on almost everything. He's trying very hard to give the character weight and I'm of the opinion that a fight would have served the purpose better. However I'll let it go.
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Exactly kind of like the conjuritis that Harry is suffering, what is the point? Kind of funny, but really do we need comic relief that badly? Butters already had a hot girlfriend, does two make him appear more masculine? Or does he just like to watch? Which makes him what, weird or kinky? It doesn't make him more brave, heroic, strong, or smart.. He was those things when he was still working for the county and went to an insane asylum rather than lie about his autopsy findings. That is why he earned a Holy Sword in the first place. Underscoring that he has more than a light sabre in his pocket doesn't do much for him or us.. ::)
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