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Peace Talks - What did you like? What didn't you like? What were you expecting?

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ClintACK:
I keep reminding myself that we've only seen half the book.

Hopefully, there will be a reason (other than some sort of fan-service) for the emphasis on the threesome -- whether it's a clue that Andi's been compromised by Nemesis (probably during Aftermath, when she and Georgia were held by the fomor for a few days -- compare the pregnant Georgia who was still resisting ("She hassss not yet capitulated... interesting.") to Andi who was catatonic); or perhaps it's there to set up a moment when the Alphas have been slaughtered and Butters goes out in a blaze of glory avenging them (and getting Harry the sample of Ethniu's blood that he needs to win).

Similarly, the conjuritis, while the comic effect falls a bit flat for me, is probably there to set up the reveal that Maggie is a wizard and to help Harry learn a new facet of wizardry.

I mean, imagine having this discussion halfway through Dead Beat and people rolling their eyes at the super-hot nerd-girl Shiela who's just throwing herself at Dresden and fulfilling every stupid damsel-in-distress stereotype in the book. Talk about fan service! But she turned out to be a pretty big part of the plot of the next several books.

Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 25, 2020, 03:56:35 PM ---I keep reminding myself that we've only seen half the book.

Hopefully, there will be a reason (other than some sort of fan-service) for the emphasis on the threesome -- whether it's a clue that Andi's been compromised by Nemesis (probably during Aftermath, when she and Georgia were held by the fomor for a few days -- compare the pregnant Georgia who was still resisting ("She hassss not yet capitulated... interesting.") to Andi who was catatonic); or perhaps it's there to set up a moment when the Alphas have been slaughtered and Butters goes out in a blaze of glory avenging them (and getting Harry the sample of Ethniu's blood that he needs to win).

Similarly, the conjuritis, while the comic effect falls a bit flat for me, is probably there to set up the reveal that Maggie is a wizard and to help Harry learn a new facet of wizardry.

I mean, imagine having this discussion halfway through Dead Beat and people rolling their eyes at the super-hot nerd-girl Shiela who's just throwing herself at Dresden and fulfilling every stupid damsel-in-distress stereotype in the book. Talk about fan service! But she turned out to be a pretty big part of the plot of the next several books.

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True, I've also thought that was the purpose of the conjuritis, but I don't know even if it helps reveal that Maggie has talent if it needed to be drawn out that long?  Especially if people have read Zoo Day, it becomes a "duh."  Not quite the same as Sheila, Jim did a much better subtle job of making her seem really real until Butters woke Harry up.  There also seems to be better ways of revealing that Andi is Nem infected.

Dina:
I agree with ClintACK here and I think the Shiela example was in point (only I immediately suspected she was Lasciel and here I have not idea of the point). I think conjuritis will serve a purpose, probably the one you stated, and of course it will be useful at some point. Still, I've complained that Harry did not try to ask Bob about it when they were at Butter's place. And about the threesome, I am not complaining about that, I feel adding traits to a character make it more real, so it's the same if it is that he prefers coffee over tea (like Harry) or its sexual preferences. As long as it does not take much of the story, I am totally fine with that. Again, my problem was with Jim mentioning Harry apparent conflict with that. It was a highlight I did not appreciate.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Dina on July 25, 2020, 07:18:54 PM ---I agree with ClintACK here and I think the Shiela example was in point (only I immediately suspected she was Lasciel and here I have not idea of the point). I think conjuritis will serve a purpose, probably the one you stated, and of course it will be useful at some point. Still, I've complained that Harry did not try to ask Bob about it when they were at Butter's place. And about the threesome, I am not complaining about that, I feel adding traits to a character make it more real, so it's the same if it is that he prefers coffee over tea (like Harry) or its sexual preferences. As long as it does not take much of the story, I am totally fine with that. Again, my problem was with Jim mentioning Harry apparent conflict with that. It was a highlight I did not appreciate.

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I think you put your finger on it though Dina.   Once I thought about it I got to thinking Harry caught it from little Maggie, and when Eb said it is something that usually just very young wizards get, there was the answer.   However I am still not sure what the point of the threesome was.  Jim write it that way because Butters would seem to be the least likely to have such an encounter so it diverts our attention away from something else?

ClintACK:
I think we might be reading too much (or the wrong thing) into Harry's "... and because I wasn't quite sure what to think about that myself."

If it turns out that that whole situation was a clue to Nemesis -- because one or more of the three of them was behaving out of character -- then that line might just be Harry's intuition nudging him that something's off.

For that matter, from what little we saw, the threesome looked like it might be more the Ross Geller version of a threesome than a healthy polyamorous situation. It could just be that Harry's worried that Butters is going to get hurt.

Also... WTF... Marcy's name was spelled with a 'y' in Aftermath, then in Ghost Story, Bombshells, and Peace Talks it's Marci with an 'i'. What's that about?

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