The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
[Spoilers!] First chapter of PT
Mira:
--- Quote ---Morris suggested that all female Whites could be completely infertile. That was what I was responding to. I thought that was clear. Lady Malvora wasn't completely infertile. Therefore all female Whites are not completely infertile.
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She is also a head of a house, evidence of being a queen bee.
--- Quote ---That wasn't the point you made or the one I responded to. You said a feeding usually ends in death. It doesn't. You're wrong. I seldom speak in such certainty on this forum because most things are speculative or there is at least an argument for it. You're simply asserting things that are contrary to the text with zero supporting arguments or evidence. You're just making stuff up. Which is fine. That's just headcanon or fan fiction. That's fine. I just think it's silly to suggest that one's headcanon or fan fiction is canon, unless the headcanon has some support somewhere.
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Blood Rites page 158
--- Quote ---"What do you mean again?" He spoke quietly, his eyes flat. "Inari. He sent to you when saw you left my chambers." "If he wanted me dead, why didn't he just come and do it.?""It isn't how the White Court fights, Harry. We use misdirection, seduction, manipulation. We use others as instruments." "So your dad used Inari." Thomas nodded. "He intended her to have you as her first." "Um. First what?" "First lover," Thomas said. "First Kill."
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Now on page 159
--- Quote ---"Let me guess," I said. "The first feeding is lethal." "Always," Thomas said.
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Then...
--- Quote ---"Why in the hell has anyone told her, Thomas? What she is? What the world is really like?" "We are not allowed," Thomas said quietly. "We have to keep it from her. It is my father's standard procedure. I didn't know when I was her age either."
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morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 28, 2020, 05:17:18 PM ---Vittorio Malvora was the son of Cesarina Malvora according to the wiki.
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Yeah, I guess so. Semi immortal takes a 50 50 chance of death bearing a child. Cesarina was a jewel of motherhood and Jim doesn't keep good track of what he writes.
Bad Alias:
You've disproved a point no one made. No one here said the first feeding isn't usually lethal. You said feeding is usually lethal. It's not. Thomas explains why at the end of Turn Coat. Also, Thomas was wrong. Bigfoot on Campus proves that.
--- Quote from: Mira on March 28, 2020, 07:54:19 PM ---She is also a head of a house, evidence of being a queen bee.
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Sure. Two heads of major houses have children. It's also confirmed that four other wcv have had children. Raith's brother, their parent because they're brothers, the guy from BoC, and Thomas. Additionally, the White in Jury Duty was "young" and had a human mercenary as a minder. Probably younger than Thomas and not Lord Raith's child or he was having children a lot more frequently than every 15 years.
Barrowill. His name was Charles Barrowill.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 28, 2020, 08:15:07 PM ---Yeah, I guess so. Semi immortal takes a 50 50 chance of death bearing a child. Cesarina was a jewel of motherhood and Jim doesn't keep good track of what he writes.
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Thomas could have been looking at the survival rate of mortal mothers. I would imagine White mothers had a much lower mortality rate because they didn't have the "die from infection" rate that many real world mortal mothers had before we figured out germ theory. Also, they can feed to replace the energy stolen by the child's demon while a mortal mother couldn't.
morriswalters:
https://www.jim-butcher.com/pt-transcript
Bad Alias:
Thanks.
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