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Dina:
I just read this chapter today, so sorry if everyone already discussed this, but I am confused about what Thomas said. Particularly:
infertility? Problems for the babies? I don't get it. From BT and all the Inari story I got the idea that White reproduced normally and does not begin to feed until coming of age. Why the baby will be feeding from Justine? Why would there be infertility problems? Lord Raith has a lot of children, for instance.

Bad Alias:
He's had centuries to have them. The infertility problems is probably, as a gamer would put it, a balance issue. If an immortal faction can reproduce at a rate equal to humans, they'd be way more powerful than otherwise. Not to mention they'd run out of food pretty quick if there wasn't another mechanism for keeping them in check.

The Hunger feeding during the pregnancy is another issue. It does go against what we know, but not to the point that it can't fit. Maybe that's how it hooks into the Whites in the first place. Then it goes into a dormant state until the host has matured enough to secure and consume "food."

Another problem is how come Justine's true love protection doesn't just kill the Hunger and maybe even the child.

A point I hope is taken into consideration is that pregnancy related deaths have drastically decreased in the real world.

Dina:
Well, nitpick. That is not "infertility", it's "low fertility". Low fertility is totally understandable, specially for monsters who are as sexually prone. If they had a high fertility rate, they would spread a lot, they would be difficult to remain hidden, for instance. And many other consequences. But infertility is unsustainable unless you transmit an infection like TWD zombies or the red vampires.

And yes, the hunger feeding while in uterus can be plausible. Remind me something. Justine has a "condition" that would make her perhaps more resistant to pregnancy that a normal human, right?

Yuillegan:
Well what Thomas says is that WCV are "all but infertile" which isn't saying they ARE infertile - but have low fertility, as you point out.

Bad Alias's explanation makes sense to me, I wouldn't over think it.

Justine's protection not protecting her from getting pregnant is odd. My thinking is that it is a combination of them both being in love, Thomas not fully understanding why and how love affects his kind (he only has his father's explanation, but there might be more to it), and the fact her protection gets neutralised somewhat in orgies (as shown at the end of Ghost Story).

I think WCV children are actually more like Fae Changellings. They are scions (half mortal with the Choice to become one or the other). The "phage (the Hunger)" is either dormant or in waiting until they come of age (as shown with Inari etc) and then Choosing to either feed or fall in love before the first feeding. That was shown in that short story with River Shoulders I think. Like that being that bonded with the doll in the Butters short story, the Phage is waiting until it can bond to a host.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 26, 2020, 11:57:42 PM ---I wouldn't over think it.
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:o Isn't that mostly what we do here?

Honestly, that's kind of how I feel about your desire for an explanation of why does so much happen in Chicago, but sense I enjoy the back and forth, I just try to come up with probable answers. Mostly I just end up with possible answers, as I'm pretty sure the correct answer is, as Morris says, because Harry lives in Chicago.

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