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[Spoilers!] First chapter of PT
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 27, 2020, 12:30:02 AM --- :o Isn't that mostly what we do here?
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True dat! I forgot where I was.
Well the first chapter for instance of Peace Talks answers my thoughts about Chicago for this book i.e. that Baron Marcone (the first vanilla mortal to get onto the Accords) wants the talks held for his city. If Drakul had held them, perhaps they would have been in Europe etc.
But my broader contention is why is that the first vanilla mortal to get on the Accords (Marcone) just happens to be in Chicago, conveniently the same city as Harry? Why has no one succeeded in getting on the Accords before a Chicago Mobster? Why is it the Fomor's main base under Lake Michigan? If you were a cop, wouldn't that seem like too many coincidences to you? Maybe Chicago has special supernatural significance beyond the ley lines etc. Like how Earth is the only planet that matters in the Dresdenverse. As far as we know.
I still think Alera and Cinder Spires worlds are just other Earths in Dresdenverse.
Oh it's 100% because Harry lives in Chicago. I just would like a slightly stronger story reason (even if it was because the universe revolves around Harry).
g33k:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 27, 2020, 01:18:40 AM --- But my broader contention is why is that the first vanilla mortal to get on the Accords (Marcone) just happens to be in Chicago, conveniently the same city as Harry? Why has no one succeeded in getting on the Accords before a Chicago Mobster? ...
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Well, it was because getting Marcone onto the Accords was all Harry's idea. Harry needed a bribe, and couldn't afford to pay the kind of money that would interest Marcone.
So he came up with -- literally -- "an offer Marcone couldn't refuse." Even if Harry had added "Oh, and 10 million in cash, small unmarked bills" Marcone would have said Yes.
I'd guess that no other mortals became signatories simply because none of them had the right mix of ambitions and a Supernatural sponsor who was used to "outside the box" thinking like this (Harry has remarked how conservative the old ones get).
I bet that before Harry made his pitch, Marcone had presumed that (as a mortal) he was locked-out of the Accords.
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 27, 2020, 01:18:40 AM --- ... Why is it the Fomor's main base under Lake Michigan? ...
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That is the base of "King Corb." Presumably, he's outranked by "the Empress" (I'm now presuming she is also "the last Titan" of DF#17-BG), and I'm guessing HER court is in the ocean (Tethys looking AWFUL likely here).
Corb probably rules North America, and Lake Michigan is the biggest lake that's closest to the center of the continent.
Where ELSE would the Fomor King of America set up his Court?
Even more important, of course... Harry Dresden lives in Chicago! ;D
Bad Alias:
Easiest one first. The Fomor are from everywhere in the oceans. What makes you say their main base is in Lake Michigan? Did I miss something.
Marcone survived most of his encounters with the supernatural, at least once the books start, because he is in the same city as Harry. Victor Sells would have likely killed him if not for Harry. Ditto all the werewolves. Maybe Bianca. Easily could have died from a plague centered on Chicago. I'm not sure how many would have died, immediately, from the Dark Hollow, but Marcone might have been one of them, he definitely would have his power diminished if the killing of Boney Tony went unanswered or he took on Grevane, his relationship with Harry is what gets him on the Accords in White Night, if you can't figure out how Harry helps Marcone in Small Favor, that's on you, Cold Days would have killed everyone in Chicago, and judicious use of Harry helps him elevate his position in Skin Game and then defend it once more in Jury Duty.
The point is, it's not a coincidence that the first wizard to advertise in the yellow pages and the first vanilla mortal to get on the Accords live in the same city. It's causal. Additionally, if Marcone was to maintain his level of threat to Harry, he had to level up with him. His relationship with Monoc Securities was how he did that. He may well have only been able to obtain that relationship because Harry was in Chicago, and Odin wanted to keep tabs on Harry. Vadderung himself suggests that.
--- Quote ---Someone with enough foresight might, for example, arrange to be in a position to assist a hotheaded young wizard of the White Council one day. Perhaps who I am is directly responsible for why I am here.
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Harry signs for Marcone. Vadderung signs because Marcone has a relationship with Marcone because of Harry. Lara signs because Marcone saved her bacon because of Harry. Marcone is on the Accords because of Harry. No coincidence.
Mira:
I don't think Thomas likes the idea of fathering a vamp child. I think he also fears becoming his father, Lord Raith. Not that it is in his nature to be, but the key thing he said was most vampires are sterile. As we know Lord Raith fathered many children, killed off all the males save Thomas, but not for lack of trying and dominated his daughters. He must have feared a male that could reproduce would eventually challenge him. I wonder now if Lara will see him as a rival?
didymos:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 27, 2020, 03:54:56 AM --- I don't think Thomas likes the idea of fathering a vamp child. I think he also fears becoming his father, Lord Raith. Not that it is in his nature to be, but the key thing he said was most vampires are sterile.
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No, that's not what he said:
--- Quote ---“Yes,” Thomas said. “And my kind are all but infertile to boot. Happened anyway.”
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"All but infertile" is not the same thing as "most vampires are sterile". It just means they have children rarely given how often they, um, hook up. But keep at it long enough, like over centuries of time, and the number of kids can add up. In this case, Thomas and Justine just got lucky. Or unlucky, as they might see it.
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