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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"
Mira:
--- Quote ---Of course, Harry and Susan have supernatural complications. As I said, perhaps they did not know that she could conceive (but as Susan was the one working with St.whathisname people, she was in a better position to have asked the question. I know I would have asked that almost immediately. And, as I said, if I knew I am able to conceive and also have issues that could make me lost the control I would take pills, or have an intrauterine device or whatever could work in half-turned (unless I was actually planning to have a child with someone)
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Yes, and let's not disregard the elephant in the room, the vamp venom. It acts like "spanish fly" on the victim so the vamp can feed. And as we saw when Bianca fed on her beloved secretary, can lead to loss of control on the part of the vamp. That is why the rope suggestion from Molly because of Harry's fear of having sex with Susan, least she kill him. I believe getting the rope and agreeing to be tied up was a mutual thing, but done under the influence of the venom. Also Harry had been hurt and tortured just hours before, not thinking exactly straight, in fact was in such bad shape that Susan didn't want to leave him alone, though Martin knew what could happen and warned both of them against her going back to Harry's place and staying with him.. Oh and the spell that led to Harry locking down his place until dawn. Harry also smelled from his blood loss which excited Susan, which led to the release of venom and the licking of venom, which led to the getting the rope.. So yeah, unprotected sex under the influence, yes, irresponsible if done under the influence of deliberate drinking or drug intake.. However while one could say it was irresponsible, at the same time neither were exactly in control enough to be held responsible.. The only one who might have prevented it was Martin, he could have told Susan to drive the car and he'd look after Harry.. He didn't and as we know now he had his own agenda..
morriswalters:
Harry isn't a walking penis with no higher functions, and Susan isn't a ambitious slut. There is no simpler way to say it. In a modern sense neither Harry or Susan are fit parents. Harry's antecedents are so paranoid that his own grandfather won't claim him outright. Zombie's assaulted his apartment and the only safety for his daughter lies in Michael's house being protected by Angels, and she still almost got machine gunned by Nic's boy army. Susan on the other hand was involved in a guerilla war with the Reds and was on an international terrorist watch list. And just might have eaten the child if she got too worked up. I'm failing to see what Harry's bitch is. And possibly had she known Michael she might have sent the baby to him UPS.
Harry gave Kim Delaney plutonium for a steak sandwich and a beer. This was not good teaching on Harry's part.
@Dina
No I didn't give my kids a pass. I merely spent a lot of effort making sure that they didn't kill themselves before they were competent to make that kind of decision for themselves.
Dina:
Again, not kids. They are women.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 16, 2020, 08:10:34 PM ---Harry isn't a walking penis with no higher functions, and Susan isn't a ambitious slut. There is no simpler way to say it. In a modern sense neither Harry or Susan are fit parents. Harry's antecedents are so paranoid that his own grandfather won't claim him outright. Zombie's assaulted his apartment and the only safety for his daughter lies in Michael's house being protected by Angels, and she still almost got machine gunned by Nic's boy army. Susan on the other hand was involved in a guerilla war with the Reds and was on an international terrorist watch list. And just might have eaten the child if she got too worked up. I'm failing to see what Harry's bitch is. And possibly had she known Michael she might have sent the baby to him UPS.
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And I am failing to see your point. I am not arguing with Harry but with you (and others).
didymos:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 16, 2020, 08:10:34 PM --- Susan on the other hand was involved in a guerilla war with the Reds and was on an international terrorist watch list.
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Martin was on the watch list, not Susan.
KurtinStGeorge:
The thing with Kim Delaney was that Harry warned her there was danger in what she was asking, but he didn't tell her why it was dangerous. Harry brings this up in later books; keeping knowledge from people to protect them versus giving them complete knowledge so they can make their own informed decisions. For whatever reasons, Kim Delaney wasn't honest with Harry. Perhaps she made a promise to McFinn to keep their conversations private. That sounds reasonable to me, but we will never know for sure.
One more thing to realize is that Kim was not an official apprentice. It's made pretty clear that Harry helped Kim to work with her talents but she's not calling Harry her master or teacher. In fact, Kim talks to Harry like they're almost equals; that Harry is just someone who knows more lore than she does. Perhaps Harry's original error was not to formalize his teaching relationship with Kim from the very beginning. In this way he could have given her a more complete picture of the supernatural world, but done so with specific rules and a structure to operate within. In Harry's defense, he had never been part of a normal wizard/apprentice program and there's no indication that Ebenezer ever told Harry that one day he might have to teach someone else how to use their magic.
On an unrelated subject, someone said this story was just fan service. I agree with that opinion. It didn't give us any new insights into either Ivy or Kincade. The revelation of Ivy firing Kincade wasn't anything many of us couldn't guess would have happened.
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