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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"
morriswalters:
The visible mark of the connection was the sigil, and it's gone. Seems pretty definitive.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 29, 2020, 05:48:04 PM --- ... The visit Harry received in Father Forthill's office was pretty faint. In fact it took Uriel's enhancement of the increment for Harry to understand that someone, i.e. one of the Fallen has pushed him over the edge, "and it is all your fault." Now it could be that the Fallen who said this made himself or herself faint for a reason, or it could be if the coin was near and her slight connection to Harry being the still developing Bonnie, that was the best Lasciel could do.
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It's a pretty W-A WAG, frankly... particularly when Occam is patiently standing there with an obvious alternative. We have WoJ that they're "frozen in carbonite." We have (as @morriswalters points out) Lasciel's Sigil being gone; not faint or obscure, but gone.
Lasciel had a new Host by that point, and was no longer limited to the Coin. It's as simple as that.
How do we know she had a new host? She was outside the Coin.
The way the Denarians operate in the world is when they have a Host; Lasciel was operating in the world; Lasciel had a new Host. quod erat demonstrandum (not to put to blunt a point upon it).
Mira:
--- Quote ---Lasciel had a new Host by that point, and was no longer limited to the Coin. It's as simple as that.
How do we know she had a new host? She was outside the Coin.
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Yup, that is the obvious choice, but was Hannah Asher disillusioned so much at that point that she'd allow Lasciel to go after Harry? I could see it if this happened post C.I. after all her friends had died, but before? Maybe..
Yes, we know the facts, but fear isn't rational, even for Harry, so I still say that hearing that whisper at the end of White Night spooked him enough to dig up the coin and call Father Forthill. Even at
that point in time there was a lot he didn't know about Denarians.. Hey until Skin Game he didn't know that his Id and the shadow of Lasciel could have kinky sex in his head and make a spirit baby, I bet even Michael had no clue that that was possible.. ::)
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 29, 2020, 08:54:06 PM --- Yup, that is the obvious choice, but was Hannah Asher disillusioned so much at that point that she'd allow Lasciel to go after Harry? I could see it if this happened post C.I. after all her friends had died, but before? Maybe..
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Hannah was picked up after changes according to her story. It was the dead of the fellowship that made her recruitment easier.
But any temporary host would do. Some denarians go through hosts pretty fast.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on April 29, 2020, 09:17:45 PM ---Hannah was picked up after changes according to her story. It was the dead of the fellowship that made her recruitment easier.
But any temporary host would do. Some denarians go through hosts pretty fast.
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True, but is that true of Lasciel? I can see Denarians that go in for violence not last very long, but Lasciel's methods of seduction might take longer, her shadow existed a long time in Harry's head. Then again a pissed off lover could kill off her host in an act of passion quite quickly.
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