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toodeep:
Two questions have come to me from reading the last page of comments
1.  Harry thought that the grabbing of Marcone was a 2 step potential plan by Nic - he could take and get a small win by keeping Marcone even if Dresden didn't call the Archive, and he would have a shot at the archive if the Archive was brought in.  What if Nic had more reason to believe that the Archive would be brought in?  He's worked with Mab before, Mab brought in Harry.  Did Mab want/help Nic to bring in the Archive so that Nic would break the Accords (and fail) to "motivate" him to go after the goods in Skin Game?  After all, that book set up everything that drove Skin Game and the goods from Skin Game are necessary for the final endgame.

2.  If Harry is the only resource Mab has to kill mortals, how does she pull off the Hobs attack in the railway station?  Why does she do that?

morriswalters:
2.
--- Quote ---The Hobs were there to kill the Archive.  Everybody else was collateral damage. And Ivy isn't the Archive, the spirit inside Ivy is the Archive. And that spirit isn't human.
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toodeep:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 02, 2020, 06:04:47 PM ---2.

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I don't think so, because
1.  Ivy is human and thus protected against the winter court whether she has access to the archive or not - and I don't think the Hobs had the means to attack the Archive construct separate from its access point through Ivy.  Her free will as a human is what makes the Archive so dangerous and scary.  Though I suppose the idea of the Archive having free will might be a red herring and her decision making is changing because Ivy is nfected like Maeve was...

2.  We've seen Ivy magically in action.  I do not believe the Hobs provided a significant threat to her if she truly moved against them.  she conserved her resources in case there was a real threat out there behind the Hobs, which as far as we know there wasn't.

Mira:

--- Quote ---1.  Ivy is human and thus protected against the winter court whether she has access to the archive or not - and I don't think the Hobs had the means to attack the Archive construct separate from its access point through Ivy.  Her free will as a human is what makes the Archive so dangerous and scary.  Though I suppose the idea of the Archive having free will might be a red herring and her decision making is changing because Ivy is nfected like Maeve was...

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   Ivy I believe has free will, however the Archive does not.  However usually the host is trained in the rules and use of the Archive..  I don't know if you'd call it a bit of a "catch 22"  the host in theory has free will but isn't free to exert it.  It could be that it isn't Ivy that was infected, but her mother who chose to kill herself rather than submit to the limitation of her free will and jealous of her baby for having a lifetime of free will choices before her. 

morriswalters:
It's in the text.  I don't know what to say other than that.

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