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morriswalters:
Maeve was setting Mab up to look insane. This starts in PG. This is pitched to Lily for Cold Days. In PG Mab is down a Knight and Lea. Maeve is in doubt. The power balance if broken and Mab dare not make a move. Rashid can hold the Outer Gates and she can defend the Well Spring. At that point she is fully committed and has no resources to attack anywhere else.
The game in Small Favor was always about taking Ivy. Titania is the one bordering on insanity. Nic wants Ivy and Titania wants Harry. Marcone is the key. Since he is now a member of the Accords he can be attacked. Harry explicitly foreshadows this in White Knight.
--- Quote ---"Freeholding lord," I said. "It means he's entitled to rights under the Accords—like rights of challenge when someone kills his employees. It means that if a supernatural power tries to move in on him, he'll have an opportunity to fight it and actually win."
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Once Nic grabs Marcone and Mab declares Harry to be her Emissary, he is a target.
--- Quote ---“This is another point of contention between you and Titania.”
“When one Court moves, the other perforce moves with it,” Mab said.
I croaked, “Titania wants Marcone dead?”
“Put simply,” she replied. “And her Emissary will continue to seek your death. Only by finding and saving the Baron’s life will you preserve your own.”
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The put simply is a mild understatement. Harry was going to die and Marcone saved him. Once he became a Freeholding Lord he was screwed. Nic is just taking advantage of the situation to snatch the Archive. As a minor note, this I believe, is the only time we see Anduriel manifest.
For all you PG fans the definitive evidence that the BC struck at Arctis Tor. And that it was Thorned Namshiel.
--- Quote ---And among the Fallen was one with much to answer for to me, personally, for its attack upon my home.”
“The Black Council attack on Arctis Tor,” I said. “One of them used Hellfire.”
Mab showed me her snow-white teeth. “The Watchman and I,” Grimalkin mewled for her, “had a common enemy this day. The enemy could not be allowed to gain the power represented by the child Archive.”
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--- Quote ---I frowned and thought of the silver hand that had batted the fallen angel and his master sorceries around as if he’d been a stuffed practice dummy. “Thorned Namshiel.”
Mab’s eyes flashed with sudden, cold fury and frost literally formed over every surface of the chapel, including upon my own eyelashes.
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kbrizzle:
@morriswalters
Absolutely agree that Maeve was setting Mab up to look insane, doesn’t mean Mab can’t take advantage of it when it suits her purpose.
Well Nic attacks Marcone before a Mab picks Harry which leads me to think that his plan was adaptable to whoever the mediator was.
Also Marcone has Gard save Harry in DB in a dark alleyway behind Bock’s place - how would Titania know about this & be angry enough to kill Marcone. I think it makes more sense that she just wants to kill Harry & damn the consequences (if that includes Marcone dying then so be it, she’s not feeling terribly rational for a few years).
I would argue that Nic only attacked Marcone because he was likely the weakest Signatory in order to test the Accords - he could’ve attacked Marcone a couple of years earlier & gotten away with it scot free since no one else cared about Marcone the Chicago gangster.
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 01, 2020, 09:07:12 PM --- ... For all you PG fans the definitive evidence that the BC struck at Arctis Tor. And that it was Thorned Namshiel...
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Thank you for the specific quotes!
I still assert that we only know that a Denarian was in the attack, not the BC. Mab may just have ignored Harry's nonsensical babbling about a "black council," or presumed it was specifically limited to the forces in the Denarian-led assault. Mab's silence on the topic doesn't really PROVE the BC, or that the BC is anything other than "mortal wizards who do Nemesis' bidding," etc...
Also, Mab's reaction to T.N.'s name doesn't show that Harry was right; it could as easily be showing she's pissed at Harry for still being so stupidly blind...
g33k:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on March 02, 2020, 07:24:29 AM --- ... I would argue that Nic only attacked Marcone because he was likely the weakest Signatory in order to test the Accords - he could’ve attacked Marcone a couple of years earlier & gotten away with it scot free since no one else cared about Marcone the Chicago gangster.
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No, he attacked Marcone because of the nearly-inevitable fall of the dominoes: Marcone -> Gard -> Harry -> Ivy.
Yes, he needed Baron Marcone, not Mobster Marcone.
But Ivy was the target, and Harry was the access. Other Accorded parties presumably wouldn't have called upon the Archive; or at least, not reliably so (and how many violations of the Accords d'you suppose Nic could manage, before people tumble to the fact that Nic's goal is to get into negotiations, rather than to win any of the specific violation (not to mention the likely long-term anger of Mab)).
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 02, 2020, 08:22:57 AM ---Thank you for the specific quotes!
I still assert that we only know that a Denarian was in the attack, not the BC. Mab may just have ignored Harry's nonsensical babbling about a "black council," or presumed it was specifically limited to the forces in the Denarian-led assault. Mab's silence on the topic doesn't really PROVE the BC, or that the BC is anything other than "mortal wizards who do Nemesis' bidding," etc...
Also, Mab's reaction to T.N.'s name doesn't show that Harry was right; it could as easily be showing she's pissed at Harry for still being so stupidly blind...
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De nada. Unless Jim chooses to share we can't know for certain. So if your interpretation works for you it's all good.
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