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morriswalters:
It was a different world.  Today everybody would have kittens that a child was in that environment.  On the other hand  when I think about the scene in Skin Games where Hannah Ascher walks through the fire to flip the switch I picture the annealing furnace where they heated the spring steel. 

Bad Alias:
It was more the "I'm the son of a spring guy" part. Partly because it made me think of Bill Murray's line from Groundhog Day "yes, but my father was a piano mover, so." Also, and I don't know why, but I think the phrase "spring guy" is hilarious.

When I was a kid, we went on a tour of the chemical plant my dad worked at. Those places are dangerous, and it's not like they shut it down for the tour. I remember going out to one of the plants he worked at just because he had to pick something up or do something real quick. While I'm pretty sure that's not allowed anymore, I think it has more to do with terrorism than the safety of children.

My brother works at factory. They have tours every year where the workers' families, including little kids, are protected from the machinery and metal shavings by yellow tape. At least they don't have the tour while the factory is working.

morriswalters:
Sometimes my mouth moves on it's own.  The helical spring thing was the product of another discussion elsewhere about moving through n dimensional space. 

Con:
Right my mistake about Mab and Lucifer. Nonetheless Lucifer was proactively involved in the whole thing while Mab and Titania were balancing the scales.

kbrizzle:
Mab is involved in SmF because she knows a Denarian (allied with the Black Council) attacked Arctis Tor some time prior to PG. To figure out if all the Denarians are on the Black Council or only one faction, I think that Mab set up the entire events for SmF.

Mab’s play
We see how sneaky Mab was by luring Nic into Hades’ realm in SG, so my guess is that she set up the plot of SmF as a way to bring Nic & Tessa together again after centuries - this way Mab can tell if the Denarians as a whole are actively allied with the Black Council or just a smaller faction. I think Mab’s plan was to involve the one person she knows for sure isn’t on the BC/ Nfected - Harry - who is to be used as a blunt instrument to cause as much damage to the Denarians as possible.

Additionally the rest of the supernatural world is trying to figure out the new balance of power since the Ramps have been faring well enough in their war against the WC, & some of the players know that Arctis Tor was openly attacked which seems to have driven Mab mad. As a result, even the likes of Lara Raith were testing her resolve (she was imprisoning little folk in WN as a small, oblique insult to Mab as pointed out by Harry).

We also know that Mab wasn’t insane - I think this was Mab using the ruse of her insanity to probe who all had attacked her stronghold. Additionally I suspect this was done in tandem with Uriel to raise Harry’s power level - the Denarians attacked Marcone’s panic room with help from Hell before Mab recruits Harry. With Hell being directly involved, Uriel is able to give Harry the ability to wield Soulfire (I suspect this is a crucial point in his becoming a Starborn instead of just someone with the potential - note that beings only start calling him that a book or 2 after this).

Titania is involved because she sees Mab making a play but both her Lady & Knight are not ready/ drinking Maeve’s Kool-aid.

Denarians
I think Nic & Tessa went along because there were both short & long term gains to be had, with smaller incremental gains along the way. Here’s how I see their plan going down:

* Kidnapping Marcone was an oblique test of the Accords to see if the rest of the supernatural world is still willing to uphold them (Harry has to lie to Luccio to get the WC involved).
* Next is to tempt Marcone into taking up a Coin (I suspect Marcone might have a Shadow in his head). This is a solid gain since Marcone is a new & well-connected potential player in the supernatural game & having another Signatory under their influence would be useful to the Denarians.
* Have Mab’s emissary call on a powerful but independent Signatory to mediate - then kidnap & tempt the mediator into taking up a Coin - I’m willing to bet this particular Coin would be Nfected by Namshiel & co. Mab picks Harry, which points Nic to the Archive (Mab offers to pick another emissary if Harry becomes WK, not sure if Ivy would still have been involved if that were the case)
* If this works according to plan, the Denarians would have proved the Unseelie Accords are useless & subvert 2 small but powerful Signatories to their side - this would greatly help Nic kickstart his Armageddon lotto

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