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Yuillegan:
My mistake, my mind was elsewhere while I was writing and I had been working late. Skin Games is correct. But just to be clear, she actually HAS worked with Anduriel in the past - quite specifically when she needed to be in two places at once when she took over the Outer Gates management and Anduriel and Nick stood in. Hence the whole reason Harry is on loan in Skin Games, Mab is repaying her surface debt to Anduriel (and of course ultimately her real debt to Nicodemus - revenge). And Con is right, back then she didn't have Lea to stand in.
And who knows what Mab does or doesn't do. We have only seen a small part of her world. I suspect she would work with any being that furthered her goals.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on February 25, 2020, 11:37:48 PM ---My mistake, my mind was elsewhere while I was writing and I had been working late. Skin Games is correct. But just to be clear, she actually HAS worked with Anduriel in the past - quite specifically when she needed to be in two places at once when she took over the Outer Gates management and Anduriel and Nick stood in. Hence the whole reason Harry is on loan in Skin Games, Mab is repaying her surface debt to Anduriel (and of course ultimately her real debt to Nicodemus - revenge). And Con is right, back then she didn't have Lea to stand in.
And who knows what Mab does or doesn't do. We have only seen a small part of her world. I suspect she would work with any being that furthered her goals.
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Whatever that is, but her basic charge is to protect the Gates. We also know how tricky she is, with her there is always a loop hole and that she is a master at four dimensional chess, seeing moves four and five moves or more ahead. Did she know she'd need the weapons kept in the vault way before she acquired the debt to Nic and Anduriel? She sure as hell would know that Nic would want these weapons for his goals. I have no doubt that she knows what Harry is, she also seemed to know that he'd become her Knight at some point. Did she know that Harry would at some point get those relics/weapons but to do it he'd need help from Nic and Andruiel. It was all a set up from the beginning, Hades said as much, so I wouldn't say that Mab was repaying a favor to Nic and Anduriel. In fact she had used them from the beginning. This mission was so important that Uriel risked his Grace to make sure it was successful.. You think he would have done that if Mab had played for the other side in any real sense? In fact I've been thinking, it is being called his Grace, but in fact Uriel himself went on that mission in the body of Michael, there is that scene where Michael confronts Nic and what is coming out of his mouth doesn't seem to be coming from Michael.. No, it was coming directly from Uriel.
didymos:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 26, 2020, 03:30:24 PM --- In fact I've been thinking, it is being called his Grace, but in fact Uriel himself went on that mission in the body of Michael, there is that scene where Michael confronts Nic and what is coming out of his mouth doesn't seem to be coming from Michael.. No, it was coming directly from Uriel.
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Considering Uriel was walking around the Carpenter's place at the time, I don't see how he was in Michael's body.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on February 25, 2020, 11:37:48 PM --- ... back then she didn't have Lea to stand in...
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Say rather, Lea wasn't yet up to the job; she was still Mab's right hand, but Mab was new and hadn't yet grown into all the powers of her mantle, and Lea similarly hadn't expanded to the powers of being the Queen's right hand, as opposed to the merely the Lady's right hand.
WoJ:
--- Quote --- ... Mab was originally Winter Lady, and Lea was her Jenny Greenteeth. She was her sidekick and handmaiden. And so when Mab got promoted Lea did too ...
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(https://wordof.jim-butcher.com/index.php/word-of-jim-woj-compilation/woj-on-the-fae/)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 25, 2020, 03:56:32 PM --- ... Let's not forget that after this visit she and Harry went to Vadderung to set up the double cross ...
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Actually, the double-cross was planned from long before that point.
The whole thing with Marcone setting up a supernaturals' vault, to be a doorway into Hades' realm (with Hades the first investor): that was setting up the (eventual) double-cross.
Going to Vadderung? That was just the loop of the plot needed for Harry to trust whatever agent the plotters were using (Goodman Grey in this case). Mab could equally have made that call, maybe even Marcone; but Harry wouldn't have been as ready to trust any agent that either one recommended.
Vadderung has the role of "the guy Harry can trust" in the long con being run against the plots of the bad guys (and as he's still a relative pawn, the long con is running against Harry too).
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