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Christmas Eve story - Huge question
Mira:
--- Quote ---Are you talking about the Lady's or Knight's mantle going to Lily?
Knight's: When Ronald Reuel died, the Knight's mantle went to Aurora because she was the nearest Summer Queen. She chose Lily as the Knight.
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She turned Lily into a statue then put the mantle in her, so while technically you can say that Aurora had chosen her as her new knight, she didn't really because there was still an imbalance. Which is the point, Aurora wanted to start a war, so she turned Lily into a statue and hid the knight's mantle inside it.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---She turned Lily into a statue then put the mantle in her, so while technically you can say that Aurora had chosen her as her new knight, she didn't really because there was still an imbalance. Which is the point, Aurora wanted to start a war, so she turned Lily into a statue and hid the knight's mantle inside it.
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We don't have confirmation of the order of events. It could also be that she made Lily the Knight and then turned her into a statue. Honestly, I think this is more likely, since I tend to suspect that bestowing the Knight mantle requires the person who it's bestowed on to make the choice to accept it, given that the point of the Knight is that they have free will.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 25, 2020, 04:05:07 AM ---We don't have confirmation of the order of events. It could also be that she made Lily the Knight and then turned her into a statue. Honestly, I think this is more likely, since I tend to suspect that bestowing the Knight mantle requires the person who it's bestowed on to make the choice to accept it, given that the point of the Knight is that they have free will.
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I agree.
Mira:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 25, 2020, 04:05:07 AM ---We don't have confirmation of the order of events. It could also be that she made Lily the Knight and then turned her into a statue. Honestly, I think this is more likely, since I tend to suspect that bestowing the Knight mantle requires the person who it's bestowed on to make the choice to accept it, given that the point of the Knight is that they have free will.
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Actually we do, it is when Harry visits the Mothers, the reason for the imbalance and the coming
war is no one seems to know where the Knight's mantle is. It is hidden and the only person thought able to do that is Mab, so she is being accused of it. No, Aurora turned Lily into a statue, then hid the mantle in it. They would know if it was accepted, no one did, it was hidden by Aurora. That
is what Harry figured out in the cottage in his visit with the Mothers, that is why he was given the Unraveling.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Actually we do, it is when Harry visits the Mothers, the reason for the imbalance and the coming
war is no one seems to know where the Knight's mantle is. It is hidden and the only person thought able to do that is Mab, so she is being accused of it. No, Aurora turned Lily into a statue, then hid the mantle in it. They would know if it was accepted, no one did, it was hidden by Aurora. That
is what Harry figured out in the cottage in his visit with the Mothers, that is why he was given the Unraveling.
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You're wrong. Here's the quote:
--- Quote ---"But think, wizard. How was it done? Theft is theft, whether the prize is food, or riches, or beauty or power."
Since it didn't seem to matter either way, I did my thinking out loud. "When something is stolen a couple of things can happen to it. It can be carried away where it cannot be reached."
"Hoarded," Summer put in. "Such as the dragons do."
"Yeah, okay. Uh, it can be destroyed."
"No, it can't," Mother Winter said. "Your own sage tells you that. The German fellow with the wild hair."
"Einstein," I muttered. "Okay, the, but it can be rendered valueless. Or it can be sold to someone else."
Mother Summer nodded. "Both which are change."
I held up a hand. "Hold it, hold it. Look, asI understand it, this power of the Summer Knight, his mantle, it can't just exist on its own. It has to be inside a vessel."
"Yes," Winter murmured. "Within one of the Queens, or within the Knight."
"And it isn't with one of the Queens."
"True," Summer said. "We would sense it, were it so."
"So it's already in another Knight," I said. "But if that was true, there'd be no imbalance." I scratched at my head, and as I did it slowly dawned on me. "Unless it had been changed. the new Knight had been changed. Transformed into something else. Something that left the power trapped, inert, useless."
Both of them regarded me steadily, silently.
"All right," I said. "I have my question."
"Ask it," they said together.
"How does the mantle pass on from one Knight to the next?"
Mother Summer smiled, but the expression was a grim one. "It returns to the nearest reflection of itself. She, in turn, chooses the next Knight."
That meant that only one of the Queens of Summer could be behind it. Titania was out already--she had begun the war against Mab because she didn't know where the mantle was. Mother Summer would not have been telling me this information if she'd been the one to do it. That left only one person.
"Stars and stones," I muttered. "Aurora."
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No confirmation of order of events.
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