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Christmas Eve story - Huge question
Arjan:
I do not remember where I read this but Odin in the old stories is not just helping his champions to get glory in battle. He can Olson betray his champion and cause his death in battle.
Probably to make sure he dies in battle and can go to walhalla at the height of his power but Odin has his dark side. Ravens are carrion birds after all.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Con on March 12, 2020, 02:43:54 PM ---Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,
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Have you befriended any ants lately?
AClone:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 06, 2020, 04:34:16 PM ---I would note that Mab didn't give Harry a gift, she gave Maggie a gift. And Molly's gift was symbolic, rather than tangible. Sarrisa's influence I suppose, still teaching Mab humanity. I suspect that Molly's gift fulfilled an obligation incurred by the Winter Court when things went pear shaped during the Peace Talks. The Mother's don't visit this realm, or at least so we are told.
Edit
By the way they have prettied up the Christmas short story with illustrations and packaged it into a PDF file for download. :)
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The gift was to Maggie, but for Harry. Being the indirect person that Mab is, the actual gift to Harry was strengthening his fatherhood and his bond with his daughter.
Telling him to be sure to tell Maggie who it was from also obligates him to explain just who his boss is—and what his job is. Therefore obligating Harry to embrace responsibility. Something he has avoided in the past.
I could keep going. This is enough for now. The gift was definitely for Harry.
--- Quote from: Silentbrick on January 09, 2020, 06:43:14 AM ---Man outright says "I have brought your gift." And "I have an obligation to my vassals ." So she IS gifting Harry. It's only indirectly for Maggie.
Molly also says her gift is part and parcel to the whole winter lady gig.
Bob states that the knight has different duties to each queen. But it just feels off for two out of three.
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I’ll point out that Molly may mean that paying those bills, i,e, debts, is “part of he gig as the Winter Lady". Letting Harry know about it is her personal gift to him.
Just going to muse that this exchange is a prime example of why Molly was the right person for Harry all along. Now, we’ll just have to deal with those annoying mantles.
Hmm. Being the guilt factory that Harry clearly is, I wonder how long it’ll take him to figure out that if he’d just boinked Molly, that she wouldn’t be the Winter Lady?
Lastly, remember that Mother Winter cannot travel. Kringle gave Harry a late Christmas present because the island was a “tough delivery”, so it’s not inconceivable that Mother Winter would wait until Harry travels to her again.
AClone:
--- Quote from: Con on March 12, 2020, 02:43:54 PM ---Honestly the thing I'm most confused about is that Harry doesn't consider Vadderung/Kringle a friend. They've fought alongside each other in atleast 2 battles. He's given good advice, crucial on separate occasions. Plus he seems like a genuinely fun guy,
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They have the basis for a friendship--at least, one of the personas. Wait until you see the two of them watching a movie at a drive-in theater in Kringle's sleigh.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Telling him to be sure to tell Maggie who it was from also obligates him to explain just who his boss is—and what his job is. Therefore obligating Harry to embrace responsibility.
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What responsibility is Harry forced to embrace by telling Maggie that he's the Winter Knight?
--- Quote ---Hmm. Being the guilt factory that Harry clearly is, I wonder how long it’ll take him to figure out that if he’d just boinked Molly, that she wouldn’t be the Winter Lady?
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Pretty sure this isn't true. There's some evidence that the Ladies don't have to be virgins when they get the mantle.
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