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Denarians and/or Circle in Storm Front?

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g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 09, 2020, 04:30:43 AM --- Wrong!  This is the kid relaying this knowledge to Harry, which shocks the hell out of Harry.  Here is what Harry is saying on the next page.
The problem is the kid while yeah, seeing all this stuff maybe, wouldn't have a clue of what he was seeing.  He might be able with the drug to see creatures etc following Harry,  but he shouldn't be
 able to call it out by it's name, He Who Walks Behind.   He might see something is very different about Harry looking though the Three Eye, but since he doesn't know any wizards how does he know he is a wizard?   He has no point of reference because he has never been part of that world.
Perhaps seen that way, but the kid still shouldn't be able to put a name on them because it is beyond
his experience.  It is like a cave man being dumped in our time and exposed to air planes and cars, he might describe them after a fashion but he wouldn't say, "oh look at the air plane and oh look at the car.."  Because these things do not exist with in his experience.
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Gonna WAG here.

But I'm gonna assert it as a not-very-Wild WAG.

What the kid saw didn't NEED interpretation.

A "wizard" is a known thing, our culture has the referents.  Here's this guy whose Aura glows with power, festooned with magical trinkets that shine on their own, etc etc etc... whatcha gonna call it?  A Hephalump?  "Yo! Mr. Shiny Dude!" ?   What's more, the kid was likely an addict, had been using ThreeEye for a while.  Has seen other supernatural stuff.  Knew it was real.  And suddenly... hardcore badass magical human.  That's... well, a wizard.

Slightly Wilder, but still not very:  I will suggest that the "stain" of HWWBh might be the kind of thing you don't so much see in a visual sense, as experience.  Including the only possible name it could have... because magic.  I assert this as not-terribly-Wild because... well, because the kid DID know the Name, off of no more than seeing Harry's Aura.

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Possible secondary WAG -- the kid had previously seen HWWBh, and recognized the Aura from that!  Maybe the kid was being used by Sells -- or somebody working with Sells -- in rituals or whatever, and there had been a summoning; maybe HWWBh had been sent to kill somebody and the kid saw it; maybe LOTS of options... but whatever, maybe the kid had personal experience to line up with Harry's Aura.

Mira:

--- Quote ---A "wizard" is a known thing, our culture has the referents.  Here's this guy whose Aura glows with power, festooned with magical trinkets that shine on their own, etc etc etc... whatcha gonna call it?  A Hephalump?  "Yo! Mr. Shiny Dude!" ?   What's more, the kid was likely an addict, had been using ThreeEye for a while.  Has seen other supernatural stuff.  Knew it was real.  And suddenly... hardcore badass magical human.  That's... well, a wizard.
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Unless someone told him what he was seeing, he still wouldn't know what he was seeing?  Actually, Shiny Dude makes as much sense....

--- Quote ---Possible secondary WAG -- the kid had previously seen HWWBh, and recognized the Aura from that!  Maybe the kid was being used by Sells -- or somebody working with Sells -- in rituals or whatever, and there had been a summoning; maybe HWWBh had been sent to kill somebody and the kid saw it; maybe LOTS of options... but whatever, maybe the kid had personal experience to line up with Harry's Aura.
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But did Sells have any clue of the connection between Harry and HWWB?  I think not, and it still doesn't make any sense that he'd know HWWB by name...

morriswalters:
The sight given him by the drug gave him everything.  He Who Walks Behind.   You read it from your point of view, but spoken it isn't purely a name, more a description of what he does.  The capitalization is for the reader to point out the Walker as something special.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 09, 2020, 02:46:10 PM ---The sight given him by the drug gave him everything.  He Who Walks Behind.   You read it from your point of view, but spoken it isn't purely a name, more a description of what he does.  The capitalization is for the reader to point out the Walker as something special.

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My point of view had nothing to do about it, it is what Harry says about it.  He says how wizards learn to control the Third Eye, to keep it closed unless they need to use it.  He goes on the say the the drug is opening it on untrained vanilla mortals, because it just wasn't causing ordinary hallucinations.

page 137 Storm Front, bolding and italics mine.

--- Quote ---I shivered.  If the drug was real, if it really did open the Third Eye in mortals instead of just ordinary hallucinations upon it's users, then it was far more dangerous than it seemed, even with the deleterious effects demonstrated by the junkie I had tackled.  Even if a user didn't go mad from seeing too many horrible or otherworldly things, he might see through the illusions and disguises of any of a number of beings that passed among mankind regularly, unseen---which could compel such creatures to act in defense, for fear of being revealed.  Double jeopardy.
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I think the above is more significant than we first think, the making of Third Eye wasn't just a way
to make money or even gain power over Marcone's empire,  but another way to open another front in the coming war.   If beings that otherwise be allies in the fight against the Enemy were now engaged in protecting themselves against mortals it would be an advantage.


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morriswalters:
Your point of view has everything to do with it.  If this was a visual medium Jim could do it another way, but if he doesn't put a label on it, it loses its punch.  So wizard  and he who walks behind makes sense. Anything else doesn't. The assumption Jim hands you is that the sight interpreted what he saw, for him.

Your second quote has all the meat.  Why Three Eye?  To reveal things that someone wants concealed.  Wizards for instance.  Wide use of Three Eye would have destroyed the masquerade.

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