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Proven Guilty speculation, because, why not?

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Kindler:
I think it's a reasonable assumption that Namshiel, if involved in the attack, survived. When its host is killed in Small Favor, Nic muses that at least Tessa had lost her sorcery teacher, and this was after he found out that the Coins had been taken from Harry. There must be some mitigating factor that limits how quickly the Fallen can use their hosts. I don't think it'd be particularly hard to find a new Holder for a Coin, so I therefore assume it takes time for the Fallen to dominate their Holders (Thornyboy seemed like one of those Denarians who preferred to be always shifted, implying Domination rather than Partnership).

morriswalters:
Thorned Namshiel was the horse, I don't know which fallen was the rider.  And it was him at Arctis Tor, unless this passage from Small Favor is BS.
--- Quote ---I frowned and thought of the silver hand that had batted the fallen angel and his master sorcerer around as if he’d been a stuffed practice dummy. “Thorned Namshiel.”
Mab’s eyes flashed with sudden, cold fury and frost literally formed over every surface of the chapel, including upon my own eyelashes.
“There are others yet who will pay for what they have done,”
--- End quote ---
And by the end of Skin Game three more had, Maeve, the Reds and Nicodemus.  There is probably someone else.

The point about only seeing the courtyard is that you don't know who was in the castle when Harry got there.  There could have been an army.  Or no one.

Kindler:
Thorned Namshiel was the Fallen, not the host.

kbrizzle:
@Kindler
I took Nic’s comment regarding Tessa losing her sorcery teacher to mean that Team Harry had Namshiel’s coin - Tessa wasn’t able to escape with it, therefore it wouldn’t be at her disposal.
Since Namshiel is referred to by his Fallen name & not that of his host, it shouldn’t be a stretch to assume that the Fallen goes through mortal host bodies pretty quickly - especially since he’s part of Tessa’s coterie, which is known to do so (excepting her & Rosanna of course). It wouldn’t surprise me if his host burned out/ died in PG (but coin was whisked away) but the Fallen was up & running by SmF in a new one.

@morriswalters
That is true, although the fact that the central spire in the courtyard which contained the Wellspring was untouched - there were no markings of hellfire or acid on the walls or base - is remarkable. Either this was the only piece of rebuilding Mab did, or some event forced the attackers to stop/ divert/ retreat.

morriswalters:
Am I missing something?  Do any other of the Fallen have a first name, and if they do, why?

@kbrizzle
It's the way Mab wants it to be.  Maybe  she left it that way so Harry could see it. It makes sense if you perceive it the way I do, which is Mab sitting at the center of her web, feeling it move as the people crawl around on it as her enemies plot against her.  She's pretty much been under attack, however covertly, since Lea accepted the atheme. 

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