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Proven Guilty speculation, because, why not?

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morriswalters:
Reading through some old threads and discovered a quote.
--- Quote ---I reached out to the cold and the gloom, and found it a vaguely familiar kind of spellworking, though I couldn’t remember precisely where I’d encountered it before.
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This happens in Chapter 12 of Proven Guilty.  There is a temperature drop and a ward slowing Harry down as well as a murk.

Fast reverse back to Summer Knight. To Harry's meeting with Maeve in undertown.
--- Quote ---Maeve drew herself up, her face shining with a sudden terrible beauty. She lifted her right hand, ring finger and thumb both bent, and murmured something in a liquid, alien tongue. Sudden blue light gathered around her fingers, and the temperature in the room dropped by about forty degrees. She spoke again, and flicked her wrist, sending glowing motes of azure flickering toward Slate.
The snowflake brand flared into sudden light, and Slate's advance halted, his body going rigid. The skin around the brand turned blue, then purple, then black, spreading like a stop-motion enhanced film of gangrene. A quiet snarl slipped from Slate's lips, and I could see his body trembling with the effort to continue toward Maeve. He shuddered and took another step forward.
--- End quote ---
Now tie that in with the murk in Small Favor, in the train station.  Add to that, prior to that event the phages entered Chicago through mirrors.  How did they get into the screening room?

Myself, I'm gonna go with Maeve as Sandra Marling.  And another interesting tidbit  Molly walks away from Harry at the end of Skin Games using a cell phone.  Which made be think of Sandra Marling waving her phone.  Probably wrong but I'm feeling happy today.

Happy Peace Talks

KurtinStGeorge:
The only way we will see Maeve again is if Harry is involved in some time travel shenanigans.  However, Proven Guilty is exactly the book where that would seem a reasonable possibility, so your hypothesis may have some merit; but my guess is you've missed the mark by a wide margin.  Meaning, while I think that it's possible Maeve was involved in the events of PG, I don't think she was pretending to be Sandra Marling. 

Remember the amount of time and effort that was needed by Sandra Marling to set up Splattercon and to draw Molly into her sphere of influence.  Maeve was far too lazy to do either of those two things, but more than that she despised mortals and wouldn't lower herself to pretend to be one for any extended length of time, plus I seriously doubt she would have had the skill set needed to organize a human endeavour such as a Con; and finally, she had no reason to want to corrupt Molly.  Mavra or even the Denarians are better suspects for attempting to corrupt Molly.

To reiterate, it wouldn't shock me if we discover Maeve was working in the background during PG.  In a time travel story we might even be shown how Mab learned her daughter was nemfected.  Jim might do this to explain exactly what and why Mab did what she did, before and during PG.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 18, 2019, 06:02:29 PM ---How did they get into the screening room?

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I think Molly's friend checked her makeup using the mirror in her compact. (Someone did, I just can't remember who it was).

The temperature could have dropped just because it was Winter fairies. I was thinking that we have only seen that sort of thing with the Knights and Queens, but I remembered that the temperature changed in Small Favor when Summer kelpies came after Dresden on Lake Michigan.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on June 18, 2019, 07:59:55 PM ---I think Molly's friend checked her makeup using the mirror in her compact. (Someone did, I just can't remember who it was).

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You are correct. So there was a mirror.

@KurtinStGeorge
I may well be wide of the mark.  And if I had a copy of Peace Talks in font of my face we wouldn't be talking.  But I don't, so I'll defend. 

Somebody is throwing some serious magic around, a fairly strong ward and a myrk.  And while Molly was the beacon she wasn't the summoner. If you assume that Sandra Marling was a thrall, that leaves someone in the background that can use magic, and was at the con both times.  I would like to believe Jim doesn't use characters who never show up in the book doing things so overt.  Two international women of mystery is one too many.  The Fae are the only ones who can  use magic and can carry off glamours and are undetectable as magic users.  And Ladies can summon denizens of Faerie.



nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---The Fae are the only ones who can  use magic and can carry off glamours and are undetectable as magic users.
--- End quote ---

What? I'm confused. As far as I understand:

1) Lots of people can use magic,
2) Illusion magic is definitely a thing that non-faeries can do, and
3) Faeries are not noted as being specifically undetectable to magic-users.

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