The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Proven Guilty speculation, because, why not?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on July 13, 2019, 04:33:52 AM ---Surely Hades’ demesne wasn’t cordoned off from the mortal world for centuries until Marcone’s bank was built...
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No, you only had to die to get in. :)
One would assume that since Nic had knowledge of the three trials that it wasn't designed to be impossible to get in, merely difficult.
kbrizzle:
I’d be really curious to see how a necro/ectomancer would’ve handled the Blood Gate. Given that Hades is likely a necromancer himself, I’m fairly certain there’s a way to pass it without actually killing a member of your coterie.
Maybe Nic should’ve hired Ghost Harry from GS instead of WK Harry ;/)
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on July 13, 2019, 04:33:52 AM ---We know this isn’t the case from CD when Harry is in AT. Also the sheer number of bones & the way they were placed clearly shows a brutal fight, especially since a lot of the bones were melted by hellfire.
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Harry isn't outside in CD. He is inside.
g33k:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on July 13, 2019, 04:33:52 AM ---... especially since a lot of the bones were melted by hellfire.
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IIRC, Harry noted several different kinds of damage to the bones, presumably showing several different spellcasters with different kinds of magic.
But "melted' wouldn't be the hellfire kind of damage: blackened, charred/cracking, and even burning up, is fire damage to bone. Unless Mab had defenders with bones made of metal...
Also I gotta presume that (1) plenty of the attackers bones are mixed in (it wasn't likely to be a 1-sided battle!) And (2) nothing showing heat/fire damage was likely to be the action of any WinterFae.
kbrizzle:
@Bad Alias
True, but given how clean & minimalist the interiors are described as being (except for the replica of Harry’s apt), it seems unlikely that thousands of bones routinely clutter the passageways of AT.
Combined with the fact that the entry gates had been blown apart, hellfire & acid pitted the walls & Mab’s personal troll guards’ remains are found defending her retreat in the courtyard, I find your point unlikely (although I get you’re playing devils advocate).
@g33k
Absolutely, if the theory that this was a BC attack is correct, I would assume that there would be numerous spellcasters of different backgrounds - spearheaded by Namshiel who was either juiced up or is Nfected & able to let loose the power of his Fallen once in a while.
One the open questions is why didn’t the attackers breach the spire in the courtyard where Molly, Lea & the Wellspring are? Despite fighting a campaign to get to the spire, it is seemingly untouched when Harry gets there.
My theory is that either Uriel intervenes since the Nfected Fallen is letting loose, or if Namshiel has been juiced, perhaps Mab was able to kill the wielder but not capture the coin, bringing down the attackers’ biggest gun.
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