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Bad Alias:
To answer the original question, I think only once has Harry's withholding of information actually gotten people hurt. In this formulation, I take withholding to mean the willful and deliberate denial of information to others Harry is not trying to hurt. There are times when Harry hasn't shared information quickly enough either because it didn't occur to him or he just got the information too late, but never has his denial of information to people lead to injury with the exception of the Storm Front example from earlier. There are times when he was unable to impress the danger of certain situations onto people (Kim and Susan, mostly), but I see that as entirely their fault.

Mario Andretti: I wouldn't drive that fast. I'd fear for my safety if I was doing it.
Susan: Whatever you nancy.
Kim: You think I'm a bad driver!

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 04, 2019, 04:08:38 AM ---What proactive action would you have him take? Remember, he's not a Warden--he has no authority to actually do anything to her.

1) You said that Harry "owns it." I assumed you meant that Harry feels guilty/responsible for what happened.

2) No, the Skinwalker was responsible for Kirby dying. It was the one who chose to take the job against Harry, to follow Harry, and to kill Kirby. Harry gave it the opportunity to kill Kirby by going to Will's house, but Harry is not responsible for Kirby's death any more than Will is for calling him for help.

There's no evidence of that. I had always believed that both Susan and Kim found Harry because they already believed in the supernatural.

Nope. Susan was already a paranormal reporter when she met Harry, and Kim met the Loup Garou (I forget his name) independently of Harry. None of that is on him.

And they don't need to to avoid the dangers they get into.

In both cases, Harry explicitly warns them that he's not sure he can handle the issue, actually.

See above regarding: Nope.

This.

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I am not sure about Kim Deloney, but Susan is definitely drawn into the supernatural via Harry. She saw his advertisement and come to interview Harry. She trick Harry into a soulgaze and thus confirm the existence of the supernatural. She wouldn't have found Harry if not for the advertisement. She would not have trick Harry into a soulgaze if Harry did not proclaim in the advertisement that he is a real wizard.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---o answer the original question, I think only once has Harry's withholding of information actually gotten people hurt. In this formulation, I take withholding to mean the willful and deliberate denial of information to others Harry is not trying to hurt. There are times when Harry hasn't shared information quickly enough either because it didn't occur to him or he just got the information too late, but never has his denial of information to people lead to injury with the exception of the Storm Front example from earlier. There are times when he was unable to impress the danger of certain situations onto people (Kim and Susan, mostly), but I see that as entirely their fault.
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I would agree with this.


--- Quote ---I am not sure about Kim Deloney, but Susan is definitely drawn into the supernatural via Harry. She saw his advertisement and come to interview Harry. She trick Harry into a soulgaze and thus confirm the existence of the supernatural. She wouldn't have found Harry if not for the advertisement. She would not have trick Harry into a soulgaze if Harry did not proclaim in the advertisement that he is a real wizard.
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Did you actually read my response? Because I explicitly said that Susan was already involved in the supernatural world (albeit in a limited capacity) because she was a paranormal reporter. This is why she came to interview Harry. Harry, therefore, cannot be held responsible for her interacting with the supernatural world, because doing so was a natural hazard of her job, and she took that job before she ever knew Harry existed.

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 04, 2019, 04:34:40 AM ---I would agree with this.

Did you actually read my response? Because I explicitly said that Susan was already involved in the supernatural world (albeit in a limited capacity) because she was a paranormal reporter. This is why she came to interview Harry. Harry, therefore, cannot be held responsible for her interacting with the supernatural world, because doing so was a natural hazard of her job, and she took that job before she ever knew Harry existed.

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In this you are wrong. Susan has never touch the real supernatural stuff until she met Harry. What her tabloid covers are mostly BS. Scrap that, it is all BS. Susan would not get any othentic supernatural news from any other source aside from Harry.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---In this you are wrong. Susan has never touch the real supernatural stuff until she met Harry. What her tabloid covers are mostly BS. Scrap that, it is all BS. Susan would not get any othentic supernatural news from any other source aside from Harry.
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She's specifically going around investigating supernatural stuff. The laws of probability show that at some point, she's going to run into the real thing, regardless of whether Harry is advertising as a wizard or not.

Some examples of her getting involved investigating supernatural stuff unrelated to Harry:
-She was investigating three-eye before Harry even realized that it was a magical drug.
-I believe that part of the reason she asked Harry out on a date was that she was also investigating the magical murders happening in Storm Front.
-She started investigating the werewolf murders independently and parallel to Harry.

If Harry weren't around, she would still be investigating all these things, and things like them.

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