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Who is on the Grey Council?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---How about Big T as the "member" of the GC, but E.Gruff as her proxy, the one who "mostly" shows up, when showing-up is called for?
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Maybe. Although, going by Cold Days, Titania doesn't seem motivated to interfere with much of anything, so I'm not sure why she'd join, as opposed to going "Oh, fine, you can do it if it's so important," to Eldest Gruff.
g33k:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on May 27, 2019, 03:41:35 AM ---Maybe. Although, going by Cold Days, Titania doesn't seem motivated to interfere with much of anything, so I'm not sure why she'd join, as opposed to going "Oh, fine, you can do it if it's so important," to Eldest Gruff.
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I don't think they'd have him.
He is subject to Summer's 3 Queen's, and I doubt ANY mortal could phrase an oath he could swear, that one of the Queens could not find a way to slither around.
Then there's the simple fact that he's part of Summer, and I bet at least the Queen Who Is and the Queen Who Was can just choose to BE anywhere E.Gruff is, no warding applies because part of her is already there.
ONLY the Queens themselves (among the fae) are free-enough from external command that a security-critical group like the GC could risk having them privy to top-level GC secrets & identities.
You may be right about Titania, her odd passivity and/or her hate-on for Harry. She may not care enough, or be willing to aid the mortal wizards.
Of course, E.Gruff could be working for the GC not _AS_ the GC but just "working with" a particular wizard (such as Eb or (eventually) Harry) who happens to be a GC member...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---He is subject to Summer's 3 Queen's, and I doubt ANY mortal could phrase an oath he could swear, that one of the Queens could not find a way to slither around.
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But why would they want to? And why is it relevant? That's the point I'm trying to make.
I mean, you could just as easily say "I doubt any mortal wizard could beat Titania in a magic duel," but A) Titania's almost certainly not going to start magically attacking wizards without a good reason; and B) The possibility that she might do so (or that she might possibly acquire a reason) is not going to stop the Grey Council from having wizards on it.
Maz:
I don't think either the Summer or Winter Courts could join nor be permitted to join due to balance.
If you permit just Summer to join, Winter would most likely need to oppose and vice-versa if you permitted Winter to join instead.
That leaves an option of both joining but we haven't seen much cooperation ever out of them. In fact, they almost need to be opposed, per information we've received through the story. Mab exists to defend the gates. Titania exists to protect us from Mab. That Winter grossly outguns Summer but Titania can drag Mab down with her. That the Winter Knight exists to take out folks Mab can't and the Summer Knight is there to oppose him. Etc etc.
g33k:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on May 27, 2019, 06:35:07 AM --- But why would they want to? And why is it relevant? That's the point I'm trying to make.
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If secrets are like crack cocaine for wizards, then for the Fae it is the very air they breathe. A Faerie Queen confronted with a mortal secret involving one of her courtiers??!? Not gonna stay secret for very long...
And any security-conscious group (of which the GC is a prime exemplar) is going to be HIGHLY averse to having a powerful, capricious creature like a FQ sticking her nose in because one of their Councilors is also in the Court of said FQ.
If they can induce one of the FQ's to join, then it becomes the secret of said FQ, and she'll protect it like she does all her secrets.
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