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Who is on the Grey Council?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Maz on May 29, 2019, 01:25:25 PM ---I don't think either the Summer or Winter Courts could join nor be permitted to join due to balance.
If you permit just Summer to join, Winter would most likely need to oppose and vice-versa if you permitted Winter to join instead.
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This is a valid point! OTOH, it's not like the GC is some cosmic-scale tipping-point...
It's a secret, largely political/investigatory sub-group of WC wizards (mostly; as noted, there may be other entities) trying to figure out the infiltration/betrayal of the WC by this "BC" or "Circle" or whoever they are -- and THAT group (the BC) in turn may be a group similarly centered around dissatisfied WC wizards.
In terms of Summer -v- Winter, it may look like a school-yard argument, as seen by business-executives in the office-building across the street.
The FQ's may not care about the "balance" involved in GC membership, because there's no effect.
Of course, that analogy also leaves them with a can't-be-bothered-to-join perspective, even if they got invited. Why would a business executive join a schoolyard clique???
--- Quote from: Maz on May 29, 2019, 01:25:25 PM --- That leaves an option of both joining but we haven't seen much cooperation ever out of them. In fact, they almost need to be opposed, per information we've received through the story. Mab exists to defend the gates. Titania exists to protect us from Mab. That Winter grossly outguns Summer but Titania can drag Mab down with her.
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I wouldn't dismiss "dual" membership so readily.
First: recall that the most-potent Queens, the Mothers, apparently co-habit readily. I think Summer and Winter have shared interests (it remains to be seen whether the GC overlaps with such interests).
Second: even if they'd chafe, they wouldn't have to meet -- as I understand it, the GC has a "cell" structure, where GC members mostly only know other GC members in their own cell, and only Eb knows everyone (or maybe not even him). But there could be one cell with Summer and a different cell with Winter, with those 2 cells never meeting together...
Bad Alias:
While the courts are unlikely to work in concert, they do work in the same direction. When Mab didn't declare war on the Red Court at the same time as Titania, everyone was surprised. Additionally, at the outer gates, the courts do work in concert.
My point is that it is possible for them to have the same goals and/or to work in concert; not that it is likely.
Also Vadderung is on the Grey Council. He's got some pretty strong fairy ties.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---If you permit just Summer to join, Winter would most likely need to oppose and vice-versa if you permitted Winter to join instead.
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Not necessarily. When Mab allowed the White Council to use her Ways, Titania didn't send a bunch of Summer fae to prevent the wizards using them. When Summer launched an attack on the Red Court to help the White Council, Winter didn't launch an attack on the White Council to help the Red Court.
--- Quote ---If secrets are like crack cocaine for wizards, then for the Fae it is the very air they breathe. A Faerie Queen confronted with a mortal secret involving one of her courtiers??!? Not gonna stay secret for very long...
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Who's confronting them with secrets? Confronting in general seems like an awful way to keep something a secret. And Titania, like I said earlier, seems far too apathetic to interfere in stuff that doesn't make itself obvious.
--- Quote ---And any security-conscious group (of which the GC is a prime exemplar) is going to be HIGHLY averse to having a powerful, capricious creature like a FQ sticking her nose in because one of their Councilors is also in the Court of said FQ.
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Or is going to want to let the counselor in in the hopes of getting help from said faerie queen, even if this queen doesn't want to join.
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