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Who really killed Margaret McCoy Dresden
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---He also apparently trusted that Deirdre wasn't corrupted.
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Devil's advocate again, I've heard a theory that part of the reason Nic was so willing to sacrifice her (without even trying a Squire first) was because he knew she was infected and it was the only way he knew to cure her. (In this theory, her love was too strong for Nemesis to corrupt, but it could have gotten to other things; and Nic is almost certainly planning a rescue mission now that she's free of Nemesis.)
--- Quote ---And why in the hell did she go to the Lincoln Memorial? She was Lincoln's contemporary.
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When and where did we find out that Margaret went to the Lincoln Memorial?
groinkick:
I'm of the opinion that none of the Fallen are Nemfected. I don't even know if they could be. I just think that there are two sides in this fight, and some of them have picked the side of the Old Ones, and Outsiders. Remember Harry was promised by He Who Walks Before that if he joined them that he, and his loved ones would be protected from harm.
My belief is that the Black Council includes some of the Fallen and the idea is that they will be rulers along side the Old Ones in the new world order.
The only nemfected people I can be sure were infected have been Sidhe. The FBI agents were corrupted but from the Wolf Belts which were just channeling dark magic much the same as a wizard going bad for doing the same thing. Who besides the Sidhe can we say for certain have been effected by Nemesis?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I'm of the opinion that none of the Fallen are Nemfected. I don't even know if they could be.
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The Fallen, sure, but what about their hosts?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 29, 2019, 04:45:56 PM ---When and where did we find out that Margaret went to the Lincoln Memorial?
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I got it from the series timeline hosted on Jim's site. Maintained by Priscellie.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on April 29, 2019, 03:53:40 PM ---Are you forgetting that Nic has tried to recruit Harry like three times by then?
Nic obviously wants Harry on his side.
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Each time by offering the coin. It's what he does.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on April 29, 2019, 03:53:40 PM ---Who said he waited? Remember that Maggie was a powerful wizard in her own right who knew Lord Raith well enough to truly hurt him with her death curse. I can very much believe that she was simply able to defend herself and evade him until something big -- like, you know, giving birth -- made it impossible for her to keep up those defenses.
A character taking an action a certain way does not mean that they deliberately intended to do it that way.
And that bit tells us absolutely nothing about the meantime.
Again, don't assume any one character is in such total control that everything they do is deliberately, purposefully timed. Lord Raith is no more immune to someone throwing a wrench in his plans than Harry is.
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I'm all for giving random chance latitude. So I'm left to reconcile some facts which make no sense. She was tagged somehow, since they found her to kill her, whoever they is. And she never planned for the time when she wouldn't be able to shield.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 29, 2019, 07:41:03 PM ---Each time by offering the coin. It's what he does.
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I fail to see how him offering Dresden a coin at all counters the idea that he wants Dresden at least in part because he's a Starborn. Him offering the coin now in no way whatsoever reflects on how he would have done things 30 years earlier in a completely different situation.
I mean, seriously -- letting Harry be raised by anyone else has resulted in Harry wrecking three of Nicodemus's plans, nearly killing him three times, and utterly ruining him.
And you think that's the way Nicodemus preferred to do things, as opposed to raising a Harry that was loyal to him?
--- Quote ---I'm all for giving random chance latitude. So I'm left to reconcile some facts which make no sense. She was tagged somehow, since they found her to kill her, whoever they is. And she never planned for the time when she wouldn't be able to shield.
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We don't know that they found her. The entropy curse that we see doesn't seem to require a location, just a target. If Lord Raith had known where she is, he wouldn't have been surprised 30 years later when he found out Harry existed.
And, yeah? Giving birth can be a very sudden thing that tends to throw plans out the window, especially if, for instance, it involved her being taken to a hospital without a threshold, and without any wards she might have been relying on.
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