The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Who really killed Margaret McCoy Dresden
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on April 29, 2019, 08:10:21 PM ---I fail to see how him offering Dresden a coin at all counters the idea that he wants Dresden at least in part because he's a Starborn. Him offering the coin now in no way whatsoever reflects on how he would have done things 30 years earlier in a completely different situation.
I mean, seriously -- letting Harry be raised by anyone else has resulted in Harry wrecking three of Nicodemus's plans, nearly killing him three times, and utterly ruining him.
And you think that's the way Nicodemus preferred to do things, as opposed to raising a Harry that was loyal to him?
--- End quote ---
I don't know what he prefers, I only know what he did. Hid didn't adopt Harry.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on April 29, 2019, 08:10:21 PM ---We don't know that they found her. The entropy curse that we see doesn't seem to require a location, just a target.
--- End quote ---
The problem I'm having here is why then? Was the curse just hanging out for a couple of years.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 29, 2019, 10:03:35 PM ---I don't know what he prefers, I only know what he did. Hid didn't adopt Harry.
--- End quote ---
And people appear to be positing he didn't do this because he didn't want to do this, and in fact purposefully let Harry be raised by someone else.
When the simpler, far more logical explanation is that Nicodemus simply had no say in the matter.
The fact remains that IF Nicodemus knew what Harry's significance was that early, IF he wanted Harry under his thumb and IF he knew where and how to find him, adopting Harry as a child so he could shape Harry's entire outlook from the start is an infinitely smarter thing to do than letting him be raised partly by a man whose values are directly and completely opposed to Nicodemus and his plans, and then trying to tempt him when he's already a grown man set in his ways.
Just because something ended up happening a certain way is not evidence that Nicodemus intended it to work out that way 30 years ago.
--- Quote ---The problem I'm having here is why then? Was the curse just hanging out for a couple of years.
--- End quote ---
Who knows? Maybe he was trying constantly, but she knew how to protect herself. Maybe he only got in touch with HWWB right before he killed her with it. Maybe he thought she was just dead because he couldn't find her.
There are numerous explanations. That we don't know which specific one applies does not amount to evidence that he did it on purpose.
morriswalters:
On the first point we appear to be on the same page. On the second point I don't think I can't carry the thought any further, and as such we'll just have to leave it as, we'll see.
kbrizzle:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on April 29, 2019, 10:28:03 PM ---And people appear to be positing he didn't do this because he didn't want to do this, and in fact purposefully let Harry be raised by someone else.
When the simpler, far more logical explanation is that Nicodemus simply had no say in the matter.
The fact remains that IF Nicodemus knew what Harry's significance was that early, IF he wanted Harry under his thumb and IF he knew where and how to find him, adopting Harry as a child so he could shape Harry's entire outlook from the start is an infinitely smarter thing to do than letting him be raised partly by a man whose values are directly and completely opposed to Nicodemus and his plans, and then trying to tempt him when he's already a grown man set in his ways.
--- End quote ---
Completely agree with this - my point before about him not caring enough to raise Harry is based on the fact that he didn’t know Harry’s significance at the time. Or perhaps while he was able to direct the Barrabas curse to kill Maggie, he was not able to trace Harry, like the the rest of Maggie’s enemies (& even some allies).
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Or perhaps while he was able to direct the Barrabas curse to kill Maggie, he was not able to trace Harry, like the the rest of Maggie’s enemies (& even some allies).
--- End quote ---
I'm still not sure why Nic would want to kill Margaret. Malcolm, yes, but what would he accomplish killing Margaret that would not be better accomplished by killing her husband, telling her other enemies where she is, or both? Remember, Jim has said that the Barbarras curse requires a lot of set up, so Nic must have a good reason to use it on the target he chooses.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version