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How many humans has Harry killed with magic? 4+?

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nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---The Hunt is a mixture of the physical, and spiritual.  Becoming a beast of the Hunt transforms the person into a mixture of physical, and spiritual.  I think anyways.
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That makes sense. A more normal transformation might be different, however.


--- Quote ---According to Jim it makes it easier to use the magic as you used it.  So it would become easier to use the magic to kill someone you saw as an enemy.  This could lead to Harry becoming more likely to use lethal magic if he sees someone as an enemy.
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I thought this had been explained as: You can only do something with magic if you believe it's right, and using magic to do so reinforces that belief (for black magic, at least. I'm not sure about other magic). Thus, killing someone with magic means that you have the *right* to determine who lives and who dies, and encourages you to disregard others' right to life. For instance, Harry might start out killing murderers and rapists, but would then progress to murdering someone who tried to steal his car, and then to his friends when they tried to stop him. He's not killing anyone who's *on his side*, but his concern for not killing people is eroding to the point where eventually just getting in his way is sufficient reason. That's what black magic does (at least, according to the White Council). In Molly's words, "It's easy. It isn't supposed to be so easy." (at least, something like that. I don't have my copy of Ghost Story with me). 

TrueMonk:

--- Quote from: groinkick on March 09, 2019, 12:28:52 AM ---Yeah but why should Harry feel bad about it?  He might not like using magic for that purpose but I'm pretty sure it's something he can live with considering the alternative.

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How many times does he ponder about the purity of magic and how important it is to use it for the right reasons and how X and Y villain is corrupting it? A LOT of times! It is to the degree that it gets a bit repetitive af the fifth read/listen (bit I guess I can't blame Jim for not writing in a way that lends itself to being reread that many times).
It just seems odd that he is so into it and then with the crashed car and the wolfhound he never thinks about it afterwards. At least not on stage.

nedserD C B yrraH:

--- Quote from: groinkick on March 09, 2019, 12:28:52 AM ---Yeah but why should Harry feel bad about it?  He might not like using magic for that purpose but I'm pretty sure it's something he can live with considering the alternative.

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Because not caring is what makes you a monster. Remember his conversation with Micheal. Monsters don't care. Sure, Harry said he'd do it twice as hard, but feeling remorse, concern, and regretting the necessity of your actions are the mark of a good person.

To your earlier question about a cop feeling bad about using lethal force, that is answered directly in the series. Murphy is wrecked by killing Denton. She knew it was the right thing to do and it still left her spirit broken. She brings this up when Harry is losing sleep about killing Corspetaker in cold blood. Just because an action save lives, it still cost one and that decision should never be an easy one. Or you're on the road to being a monster.

Don't even have to get into the effects of dark magic. That action affects everyone with free will in the DV.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---It just seems odd that he is so into it and then with the crashed car and the wolfhound he never thinks about it afterwards. At least not on stage.
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For the car crash, I had actually taken that as an indication that nobody had died. For the wolfhound, he did feel bad about it at the time--he just got understandably distracted by everything else that was going on that night, and by the time it was all resolved, I suspect that he just forgot. After all, he had much bigger worries by that point.

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