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How many humans has Harry killed with magic? 4+?
peregrine:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on March 07, 2019, 04:45:50 PM ---Are you sure? I had thought that Jim said that there wasn't a difference, at least not in terms of whether it violated the First Law.
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Or at least, not much of a difference. I recall his example was using a gust of wind to blow someone off a roof. Technically it's the fall of gravity that did it, but that's not enough to make a difference.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on March 06, 2019, 10:26:20 PM ---So there is
1 - Justin
?? - Drugged young people at the party in Biancas house when it burns in Grave Peril
2? - Raiths bodyguards when they drive into Harry's lance of force in Blood Rites
1? - The wolfhound that is part of the hunt which Harry hits with force magic so it/he hits the ground at breakneck speed in Cold Days
It seems odd that he never considers the bodyguards and the teenager disguised as a wolfhound as violations of the law. I know we do not see them die for certain, but it seems very likely.
Can you think of more he has killed? Why do you think those last three do not bother him?
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A human that is transformed isn't considered a human at that point. The person wasn't disguised as a wolfhound, he was one. He was on the great hunt. He's no longer some vanilla mortal at that point.
We don't know how many if any were killed at the party. Harry did say that there would be consequences for it though.
Should a police officer feel bad about killing a person who's trying to kill him? Why should Harry feel bad about ghosting some baddies who were trying to end both he, and Murphy?
We don't know what goes on in Harry's mind. As Jim has said we basically see the craziest week of the year for Harry in each book. We don't know how Harry reflects on the things he has done in the past because when we do see him he's pretty much fighting for his life, and the lives of others. No time to sit and think. The time off is where he probably reflects on the things that have happened.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---A human that is transformed isn't considered a human at that point.
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Are we sure about this?
--- Quote ---Should a police officer feel bad about killing a person who's trying to kill him? Why should Harry feel bad about ghosting some baddies who were trying to end both he, and Murphy?
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Well, assuming he killed them with magic, the answer is: because it is both inherently corruptive and inherently addictive. Killing bad guys with magic makes you more likely to kill good guys with magic.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: groinkick on March 08, 2019, 04:28:12 PM ---Should a police officer feel bad about killing a person who's trying to kill him? Why should Harry feel bad about ghosting some baddies who were trying to end both he, and Murphy?
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Because it's been well established in the world that killing someone with magic has very real issues associated with it that are different from using a knife or gun.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 08, 2019, 10:57:45 PM ---Because it's been well established in the world that killing someone with magic has very real issues associated with it that are different from using a knife or gun.
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Yeah but why should Harry feel bad about it? He might not like using magic for that purpose but I'm pretty sure it's something he can live with considering the alternative.
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on March 08, 2019, 07:24:48 PM ---Are we sure about this?
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No, but I surmise it. The Hunt is a mixture of the physical, and spiritual. Becoming a beast of the Hunt transforms the person into a mixture of physical, and spiritual. I think anyways.
--- Quote ---Well, assuming he killed them with magic, the answer is: because it is both inherently corruptive and inherently addictive. Killing bad guys with magic makes you more likely to kill good guys with magic.
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Not entirely. According to Jim it makes it easier to use the magic as you used it. So it would become easier to use the magic to kill someone you saw as an enemy. This could lead to Harry becoming more likely to use lethal magic if he sees someone as an enemy.
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