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How many humans has Harry killed with magic? 4+?

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TrueMonk:
So there is
1  - Justin
?? - Drugged young people at the party in Biancas house when it burns in Grave Peril
2? - Raiths bodyguards when they drive into Harry's lance of force in Blood Rites
1? - The wolfhound that is part of the hunt which Harry hits with force magic so it/he hits the ground at breakneck speed in Cold Days

It seems odd that he never considers the bodyguards and the teenager disguised as a wolfhound as violations of the law. I know we do not see them die for certain, but it seems very likely.

Can you think of more he has killed? Why do you think those last three do not bother him?

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---Raiths bodyguards when they drive into Harry's lance of force in Blood Rites
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Did he kill them? I thought he just caused a car crash that injured/trapped them.

Modern cars are pretty good at stopping their passengers from being killed in wrecks (usually by getting destroyed around the passengers).

KurtinStGeorge:
When Harry talks to the twin of one of the bodyguards in the Raith's Deeps, his words seem to confirm that he killed the other twin and the second bodyguard in the car.  Of course Harry could have been wrong and they were just badly injured.  In that case I think Lara would have finished them off. 

I've seen an SUV that flipped over a couple of time with several people seatbelted in their seats.  While there weren't any crushinging injuries because the passenger compartment wasn't compromised, they all had severe injuries and all of them were concussed.  All of them were knocked unconscious and after I pulled off the road and ran up to their vehicle, I could see all of them slowly regaining consciousness.  I told them not to move and said 911 had already been called.  It took a little over 20 minutes for an ambulance to arrive and none of them moved much at all.  (This occurred on a mountain road near Mammoth Mountain, CA. maybe ten, twelve years ago.)

So if the bodyguards weren't seatbelted, they probably would have died.  Harry only describes them as crumpled forms who weren't moving.  So we can't be 100% certain Harry killed them, just say it's possible, maybe even probable, that he killed them.

morriswalters:
Technically there is a difference between dropping a car on someone with a force spell and killing someone directly with fire.  Given that, then Harry has killed only one human with magic.  That comes straight out of Jim.  Go figure.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---Technically there is a difference between dropping a car on someone with a force spell and killing someone directly with fire.  Given that, then Harry has killed only one human with magic.  That comes straight out of Jim.  Go figure.
--- End quote ---

Are you sure? I had thought that Jim said that there wasn't a difference, at least not in terms of whether it violated the First Law.

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