The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Harry lie to Michael, or worse?
peregrine:
People can think whatever they like, it doesn't make them right.
TWG is the Enemy. If we assume Lucifer and Nic have vaguely aligned goals (as shown by Lucifer aiding Nic in his attempt to grab the Archive) then Lucifer is, per Jim, doing something like playing a game of chess against TWG. You gotta play the game to win it. Nemesis wants to metaphorically toss the board and scatter the pieces. And thus, while Nic/Lucifer may oppose Nemesis, the enemy is TWG.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---People can think whatever they like, it doesn't make them right.
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True. Of course, this applies to everyone.
--- Quote ---TWG is the Enemy. If we assume Lucifer and Nic have vaguely aligned goals (as shown by Lucifer aiding Nic in his attempt to grab the Archive) then Lucifer is, per Jim, doing something like playing a game of chess against TWG. You gotta play the game to win it. Nemesis wants to metaphorically toss the board and scatter the pieces. And thus, while Nic/Lucifer may oppose Nemesis, the enemy is TWG.
--- End quote ---
This...doesn't make sense. The fact that Nemesis wants to destroy the universe which Lucifer needs intact would by definition make him Lucifer's enemy. TWG is also an enemy, of course, but people aren't actually restricted to having just one. Also, if I have one person who I want to prove wrong in an argument and one person who I know wants to annihilate my existence, I would categorize the former as my opponent and the latter as my enemy, if I were differentiating.
morriswalters:
Unless Jim is playing mind games the capitalization of the word enemy is important. Make of that what you will.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Unless Jim is playing mind games the capitalization of the word enemy is important. Make of that what you will.
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Actually, it just occurred to me reading this that that's actually support for it being Nemesis, given that if it were the White God, Nicodemus would almost certainly refer to him as that or some variation*, and we know that speaking of Nemesis by name risks attracting its attention.
*Evidence: I'm pretty sure just before that when Nicodemus is talking to Michael, he refers to TWG as "your god" (I'm not 100% certain, though; could someone quote this bit? It's when Nicodemus is talking about Michael being trapped in Hades if he dies there).
Mira:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 20, 2019, 02:02:43 AM ---People can think whatever they like, it doesn't make them right.
TWG is the Enemy. If we assume Lucifer and Nic have vaguely aligned goals (as shown by Lucifer aiding Nic in his attempt to grab the Archive) then Lucifer is, per Jim, doing something like playing a game of chess against TWG. You gotta play the game to win it. Nemesis wants to metaphorically toss the board and scatter the pieces. And thus, while Nic/Lucifer may oppose Nemesis, the enemy is TWG.
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Exactly, and in my opinion Nemesis is just another tool.
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