The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Harry lie to Michael, or worse?
segaily:
I had always assumed Nic was talking about TWG but I must say the idea it could have been Nemesis does make a lot of sense. Nic certainly seems more worried about the traitors in his own people then anything else so he could easily be more focused on Nemesis as the enemy at the moment. That idea also lines up better with his so often saying in the past that he and Dresden could be on the same side.
Mira:
--- Quote from: segaily on March 20, 2019, 02:35:53 PM ---I had always assumed Nic was talking about TWG but I must say the idea it could have been Nemesis does make a lot of sense. Nic certainly seems more worried about the traitors in his own people then anything else so he could easily be more focused on Nemesis as the enemy at the moment. That idea also lines up better with his so often saying in the past that he and Dresden could be on the same side.
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However I think there is little evidence of Nemesis infestation among the Fallen... Can a fallen angel even be infested? If it is the host, is Nemesis so strong it can over come the influence of the fallen who inhabits the coin? Now it could be that Satan and Nemesis are one in the same, but the the quarrels among the Denarians wouldn't make a whole lot of sense either.. I think the friction between the factions simply stems from the nature of the Fallen, why they were cast out of Heaven in the first place.. It is only natural they they'd fight among themselves for notice and for favor from their master..
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 20, 2019, 03:19:03 PM --- However I think there is little evidence of Nemesis infestation among the Fallen... Can a fallen angel even be infested? If it is the host, is Nemesis so strong it can over come the influence of the fallen who inhabits the coin? Now it could be that Satan and Nemesis are one in the same, but the the quarrels among the Denarians wouldn't make a whole lot of sense either.. I think the friction between the factions simply stems from the nature of the Fallen, why they were cast out of Heaven in the first place.. It is only natural they they'd fight among themselves for notice and for favor from their master..
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I thought one of the Fallen was involved in the attack on Mab's palace in Proven Guilty, presumably Thorned Namshiel?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Avernite on March 20, 2019, 07:11:51 PM ---I thought one of the Fallen was involved in the attack on Mab's palace in Proven Guilty, presumably Thorned Namshiel?
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Hell Fire was mentioned, however that doesn't mean that if it was him that he is Nemesis infested. Remember the whole reason or rather excuse or cover for Skin Game was favors owed to Nic by Mab... Of course we know that both sides were paying a much deeper game..
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Avernite on March 20, 2019, 07:11:51 PM ---I thought one of the Fallen was involved in the attack on Mab's palace in Proven Guilty, presumably Thorned Namshiel?
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The attack on Arctis Tor was probably the work of the Circle or Black Council. Perhaps indirectly instigated by Nemesis. Answer the question, why attack at all, and you might be on your way to understanding. To this point in the book I have seen no support in the text for the idea that Nic knows of Nemesis. I could be wrong.
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