The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Harry lie to Michael, or worse?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---But in regards to Diedre/Susan symmetry. As I remember it Harry also lied by indicating she would be protected from the knife by her fairy armor, even though he she would not be. That does sound a bit like Nic saying the enemy cannot get you here.
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Definitely :)
peregrine:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on March 17, 2019, 11:04:58 PM ---That does sound a bit like Nic saying the enemy cannot get you here.
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For that, I chalk it up to Nic just being wrong. Harry bought what Nic said as well, before it was corrected for him, Deirdre most likely had much the same information Nic did, she was a true believer from everything we saw, and could very well have gone along with it even if she had known better. I figure he really did think that she wouldn't be punished for all the horrors that she committed.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---For that, I chalk it up to Nic just being wrong. Harry bought what Nic said as well, before it was corrected for him, Deirdre most likely had much the same information Nic did, she was a true believer from everything we saw, and could very well have gone along with it even if she had known better. I figure he really did think that she wouldn't be punished for all the horrors that she committed.
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That seems extraordinarily unlikely. The Greek myths are not exactly unknown even today, and given that when Nicodemus was alive the Greek/Roman pantheon was being actively worshipped...
Mira:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 18, 2019, 01:46:34 AM ---For that, I chalk it up to Nic just being wrong. Harry bought what Nic said as well, before it was corrected for him, Deirdre most likely had much the same information Nic did, she was a true believer from everything we saw, and could very well have gone along with it even if she had known better. I figure he really did think that she wouldn't be punished for all the horrors that she committed.
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Yes, include the Fallen that inhabited the coin she held as well... To it she was no different that any other host to be used until he or she died. It apparently knew or counted on somehow turning up again to be picked up by another host...
--- Quote ---But in regards to Diedre/Susan symmetry. As I remember it Harry also lied by indicating she would be protected from the knife by her fairy armor, even though he she would not be. That does sound a bit like Nic saying the enemy cannot get you here.
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Does he say that? Because it wasn't her armor that failed her, after Susan turned her throat was cut, that wasn't protected by armor, nor if I remember correctly was she wounded through her armor before she turned.
morriswalters:
Here is the passage with Susan.
--- Quote from: Changes ---I focused my thoughts and sent them to Susan. Susan! Think! Who knew who the baby’s father was? Who could have told them?
Her lips peeled away from her teeth.
His knife can’t hurt you, I thought, though I knew damned well that no faerie magic could blithely ignore the touch of steel.
“Martin,” Susan said, her voice low and very quiet. “Did you tell them about Maggie?”
He closed his eyes, but his voice was steady. “Yes.”
Susan Rodriguez lost her mind.
One instant she was a prisoner, and the next she had twisted like an eel, too swiftly to be easily seen. Martin’s machete opened up a long cut on her throat, but she paid as little attention to it as a thorn scratch gained while hiking.
Martin raised a hand to block the strike he thought was coming—and it was useless, because Susan didn’t go after him swinging.
Instead, her eyes full of darkness and rage, her mouth opened in a scream that showed her extended fangs, she went for his throat.
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Consider Nic's statement in it's context. Whatever she might suffer under Hades, had she died anywhere else her fate would would have left her in the hands of the White God for judgement. And that judgement would be irrevocable and final. On the other hand if Nic's plan would grant him the power to challenge Hades at some point he could have Deirdre back.
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