The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Harry lie to Michael, or worse?
Mira:
--- Quote ---It's one thing for Susan and Harry to say, let's have a child, and then plan for that. It's an all together different thing to have a child by accident. In Harry and Susan's case, she is a half turned vampire involved in a guerilla war and Harry is a wizard who has been attacked multiple times at his home. It is so dangerous for the child, that Susan fosters her out. Before everything is said and done, the foster family is brutally murdered. And perhaps hundreds are killed at CI as the Reds prepare the curse.
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Child by accident is neither here nor there.... It happens every day, then the best is made of it... I don't agree with Susan's decisions as to not telling Harry etc., though appearing rational on the surface, from her attitude when she told him the origin sounded more like bitterness, not for getting pregnant so much as her situation which is another story... However having said that, let's not blame the victims here... It was the Red King who did the kidnapping and the murdering, not Harry or Susan.... What is more it was Eb he was trying to kill in revenge, not Harry.. It was Martin who was playing double agent in the first place and let the Red King know where little Maggie was...
morriswalters:
@nadia.skylark
Think about what you wrote. Both parties are warned about just this thing multiple times over the course of the story line. Practically speaking, trying to apportion blame to them separately is foolish.
@Mira
--- Quote ---However having said that, let's not blame the victims here
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It kinda puts the lie to "With great power, comes great responsibility.", don't ya think?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Think about what you wrote. Both parties are warned about just this thing multiple times over the course of the story line. Practically speaking, trying to apportion blame to them separately is foolish.
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I have thought about what I wrote. From what I understand of what you've said, you are saying that Harry bears responsibility for what happened due to him having a daughter because he was careless about birth control. What I am saying is that even though he was careless, things would not have happened the way they did if Harry had known about his daughter. Therefore, more blame should be apportioned to the person who made the decision not to tell him than to the people being careless, because the carelessness was only a small part of the issue.
Mira:
--- Quote ---It kinda puts the lie to "With great power, comes great responsibility.", don't ya think?
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Perhaps you need to go back to the scene when this all happened in the first place? Maybe it should all go under the heading of unplanned sex, sub-heading, unplanned sex when you are not thinking straight, i.e. wounded, almost killed, drunken by vamp venom, sub-sub-heading of having unplanned sex with someone you truly love who you haven't seen in ages who could kill you during the sex act.... The thought of birth control apparently was way down the list for both parties... I don't recall Susan asking or insisting on Harry wearing a condom, nor Harry replying with the line that his pleasure is better if he doesn't wear anything, nor her refusing sex if he didn't.. Nor him asking her if she was on the pill or wearing any device for birth control, nor refusing to do anything if she wasn't.. Looks to me like the irresponsibility was mutual..
TrueMonk:
I think I can go so far as to say that if you are not ready to have kids, you should make sure you don't have any. So the parents are responsible for harm that comes to the kid and harm that comes from the kid. For example if Maggie had turned warlock. Also following your great power great responsibility argument.
But at any point in Harry's life from now and untill he is dead he will have dangerous enemies. Does that mean he should never have kids? Should Ebenezer (or any other combat active wizard) never have had any?
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