The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Michael lie?
Mira:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on February 21, 2019, 05:29:16 PM ---Exactly. This is why I feel that Michael is reasonably okay with it.
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No, Michael wasn't okay with it, Sanya was to a degree, but then he is a former Denarian and has, shall we say a more pragmatic approach to things than Michael does..
Here is what Michael said.. pages 301-302 paperback Death Masks bolding mine
--- Quote ---Michael and Sanya waited for me outside the door. Sanya's face held a certain amount of satisfaction. Michael's expression was grave, worried, his eyes on mine.
"It had to be done," I said to Michael. My voice sounded cold. "He's alive. It's more than he deserves."
"Perhaps," Michael said. "But what you did, Harry. It was wrong."
A part of me felt sick. Another part felt felt satisfied. I wasn't sure which of them was bigger. "You heard what he said about Shiro. About Susan."
Michael's eyes darkened, and he nodded. "It doesn't make it right."
"No. It doesn't" I met his eyes. "Think God will forgive me?"
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Michael goes on to say that God is merciful and that it isn't his place to judge.. Also in the conversation that takes place before Harry knocks the crap out of Cassius, Michael and Sanya before they leave do try to talk Harry out of doing anything to Cassius.. Cassius all the while enjoying and taunting Harry thinking he is off scott free and will get another coin.. After Michael and Sanya leave the room, then Cassius starts in on what he'd do to Susan the next time he sees her.. Harry loses it, also he needed to find out where Nic was, the Shroud, and Shiro.. Doesn't justify what he did to find out, but makes it understandable...
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 21, 2019, 06:43:17 PM --- No, Michael wasn't okay with it, Sanya was to a degree, but then he is a former Denarian and has, shall we say a more pragmatic approach to things than Michael does..
Here is what Michael said.. pages 301-302 paperback Death Masks bolding mine
Michael goes on to say that God is merciful and that it isn't his place to judge.. Also in the conversation that takes place before Harry knocks the crap out of Cassius, Michael and Sanya before they leave do try to talk Harry out of doing anything to Cassius.. Cassius all the while enjoying and taunting Harry thinking he is off scott free and will get another coin.. After Michael and Sanya leave the room, then Cassius starts in on what he'd do to Susan the next time he sees her.. Harry loses it, also he needed to find out where Nic was, the Shroud, and Shiro.. Doesn't justify what he did to find out, but makes it understandable...
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You cut the scene off too soon. Immediately after that part, Michael switches gears from, "That wasn't right, Harry," to relishing the look on Cassius's face.
--- Quote ---Michael was quiet for a moment, and then his expression
softened. He clasped my shoulder and said, "God is always
merciful."
"What you did for him was actually quite generous," Sanya said
philosophically. "Relatively speaking. He might be hurt, but he is,
after all, alive. He'll have a nice, long while to reconsider his
choices."
"Uh-huh," I said. "I'm a giver. Did it for his own good."
Sanya nodded gravely. "Good intentions."
Michael nodded. "Who are we to judge you?" His eyes flashed,
and he asked Sanya, "Did you see the snake's face, right when
Harry turned with the bat?"
Sanya smiled and started whistling as we walked through the
parking lot.
We piled into the truck. "Drop me off at my place," I said. "I need
to pick up a couple things. Make some phone calls."
"The duel?" Michael asked. "Harry, are you sure you don't want
me to—"
"Leave it to me," I said. "You've already got something on your
plate. I can handle things. I'll meet you at the airport afterward and
help you find Shiro."
"If you live," Sanya said.
"Yes. Thank you, Comrade Obvious."
The Russian grinned. "Was that a quarter you gave Cassius?"
"Yeah."
"For the phone?"
"Yeah."
Michael noted, "Phone calls cost more than that now."
I slouched back and allowed myself a small smile. "Yeah. I
know."
Sanya and Michael burst out laughing. Michael pounded on the
steering wheel.
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That sounds like Michael isn't too broken up about it after all.
nadia.skylark:
I think it could go either way, really. I prefer Michael as a character to be all right with it, but I acknowledge that it's kind of iffy to assume that.
Mira:
Michael is also human, not a saint.. Considering everything, his reaction was very human. Did he disapprove of what Harry did? Yes, on no uncertain terms... However at the same time Michael knows the kind of person Cassius is and what he was and one cannot blame him for enjoying the irony of Harry giving Cassius a quarter for a phone call after he had given up a coin. He cannot be the judge of either Cassius or Harry for that matter, as a matter of his faith, judgement is for the Almighty, not him... At the same time he cannot be blamed for savoring a little dash of irony.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Michael is also human, not a saint..
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True.
--- Quote ---Considering everything, his reaction was very human. Did he disapprove of what Harry did? Yes, on no uncertain terms... However at the same time Michael knows the kind of person Cassius is and what he was and one cannot blame him for enjoying the irony of Harry giving Cassius a quarter for a phone call after he had given up a coin. He cannot be the judge of either Cassius or Harry for that matter, as a matter of his faith, judgement is for the Almighty, not him... At the same time he cannot be blamed for savoring a little dash of irony.
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See, the thing is, when I disapprove of something, I don't laugh about it. Even when it might be funny, I try to avoid laughing because it undermines that disapproval.
To me, Michael laughing indicates that either he doesn't disapprove that much but feels obligated to say something or that he's being hypocritical/does not appear to care that much about Harry.
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