The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Did Michael lie?
Bad Alias:
The way I see it is that the fallen powers the shadow continuously. There is a connection between the shadow and the fallen, so a circle isn't going to stop the fallen from feeding the shadow. A circle might break the connection between the coin and the holder, but not the fallen and the shadow.
I think this because the shadow is fueled by the fallen. If the connection is broken, then the shadow will have to fade away or drain energy from Harry. If it is draining energy from Harry, he would be weaker, not stronger. In White Night, the shadow uses Harry's energy to go against the fallen. The shadow looks worn and haggard.
As to whether or not Michael was okay with the beating of Cassius, being okay with something and thinking it's not wrong aren't the same thing. People are often okay with the wrong thing being done.
One way to look at the Knights is to view them as both a human and a Knight. The man may be willing to do something, but the knight doesn't have the power to interfere because the action is outside his job description. Michael probably wanted to help Ascher, but he probably didn't have the power to do so. It's said many times in the books that the Knights are more vulnerable when they aren't "on the job."
I often laugh at things I disapprove. It's most common with children. They do something wrong, but hilarious. I have to control the laughter or hide and laugh silently if someone else is correcting them.
Mira:
--- Quote ---See, the thing is, when I disapprove of something, I don't laugh about it. Even when it might be funny, I try to avoid laughing because it undermines that disapproval.
To me, Michael laughing indicates that either he doesn't disapprove that much but feels obligated to say something or that he's being hypocritical.
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But he wasn't laughing at Cassius being beaten up.. They were laughing at Harry giving Cassius a quarter for the phone, and the irony in that.. A coin, get it? He had voiced his disapproval to Harry for what he did, he knows on another level this was the only way to get information from Cassius.. His faith also dictates that Harry doesn't have to answer to him for what he did, but eventually to the real Judge, the Almighty... So Michael can disapprove, voice it strongly, then move on and appreciate the irony of tossing a quarter to Cassius, who had just surrendered his beloved coin at great cost.. That is why Sanya said that a phone call costs a great deal more than a quarter..
--- Quote ---I often laugh at things I disapprove. It's most common with children. They do something wrong, but hilarious. I have to control the laughter or hide and laugh silently if someone else is correcting them.
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Agreed...
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---As to whether or not Michael was okay with the beating of Cassius, being okay with something and thinking it's not wrong aren't the same thing. People are often okay with the wrong thing being done.
One way to look at the Knights is to view them as both a human and a Knight. The man may be willing to do something, but the knight doesn't have the power to interfere because the action is outside his job description. Michael probably wanted to help Ascher, but he probably didn't have the power to do so.
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This is a much better explanation of what I was trying to say.
Sorry for any confusion that my poor phrasing may have caused.
--- Quote ---But he wasn't laughing at Cassius being beaten up.. They were laughing at Harry giving Cassius a quarter for the phone, and the irony in that..
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I thought they were laughing at Cassius' face when he was getting beaten up as well, which to me feels like the same thing as laughing at Cassius being beaten up.
Bad Alias:
The joke about the quarter was that pay phones had gone up to 35 cents back in '97. Here's an article from 2001 about pay phones going up to 50 cents. It mentions the change from a quarter to 35 cents. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-07-07-0107070266-story.html
Mira:
--- Quote ---I thought they were laughing at Cassius' face when he was getting beaten up as well, which to me feels like the same thing as laughing at Cassius being beaten up.
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They didn't watch him being beaten up. However it is possible to be totally against something yet get some satisfaction when it happens. Case in point, death penalty, one can be totally against it, yet when some really evil mass murderer gets executed it is hard to feel bad about it. What I am saying emotions are complicated, few of us are saints, and even saints have moments of weakness. Michael and Sanya are Holy Knights, it isn't their job to judge Cassius or Harry. The whole scene was complicated, Harry didn't just wack away at Cassius with the baseball bat just because he could. Cassius did all he could to provoke him and he lost it... Also there were many lives at stake and as a
last resort Harry tried to beat answers out of him... Given who Cassius had been and what he had done etc, it is very possible for Michael and Sanya to be against beating him up but at the same time find some satisfaction in Cassius getting what he perhaps richly deserved. Understanding something isn't the same as condoning something.
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