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Carl:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 05, 2018, 04:02:34 PM ---Yeah, that's what I was saying in the first post. I was only saying there wasn't time travel, specifically.

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More to the point because he's acting in the present he's not changing the future any differently from anyone else any time they exercise free will. See Harry staying on the case in death masks, or Shiro swapping places with him in the same book. Every time anyone with free will uses it they're changing the timeline. Happens all the time. harry even says so himself in death masks.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 05, 2018, 04:02:34 PM ---Yeah, that's what I was saying in the first post. I was only saying there wasn't time travel, specifically.

I feel like if Odin gave her orders to do so, she wouldn't have been telling Marcone it was a bad idea.

I more got the sense that Marcone was looking for Dresden, and she answered to the tune of, "I know where he will be, but..."
I doubt it was Odin; he seems to like Harry.

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The fates are more powerful than Odin, always have been.

Jcarlson171:
Gard could also be referring to the fact that Marcone is keeping "the walking avatar of the phrase things fall apart" on the playing field. If you consider the next few books from there on there have already been extended consequences not all of them good for Marcone.

Adding my own theory in I think Odin is very much messing with Time travel and trying to circumvent conservation of history. Mainly from his comment to Harry about "perhaps you already have"  I think this timeline has already occurred and reality lost however Odin and probably some others managed to reset some of it to try again

groinkick:
Harry up to this point has kept Chicago safe which is why when everyone thought he was dead, shit hit the fan.  So saving Harry was good, he's prevented a lot of bad things.  The consequences I think will be from Mirror Mirror.  If it's like the Star Trek episode Harry prime will be transferred to an alternate reality while Evil Harry is transferred to Prime reality.  The only way this is possible is because Harry Prime is alive, hence the consequences.  Evil Harry might do some nasty stuff, maybe even kill someone Marcone is very close to which wouldn't have happened if Harry Prime had died.

Kindler:
I don't think that Gard knew Harry was going to die until she saw him in the alley; that seems to be the way valkyries work in the Dresden Files. See her suddenly staring at Michael in Small Favor, and Harry recognizing it. Not saying she doesn't know what's going to happen, just that she wouldn't know about it from the other side of Chicago. I figured they headed to Bock's since Harry messed it up the night before.

As for the consequences, well, see books 8-15. Molly's a big one; she'd have been a warlock eventually, and beheaded by the Council rather than the latest Winter Lady. Chichen Itza's another; it's kind of important that Harry didn't die in Dead Beat, as he later commits genocide in a spectacular fashion, which topples the world's power structure.

Immediate consequences include the Darkhallow, setting Butters on the path that leads to him becoming a Knight of the Cross, saving Luccio (and probably Morgan) from the Corpsetaker and Ramirez from whatever else, leaving Cassius free to hunt down another Coin (actually, he probably would've invaded Harry's apartment and hunted it down eventually)—and possibly let him steal or destroy one of the Swords. I think those are the major ones.

Then there's the fact that nobody would've saved Marcone in time in Small Favor, in terms of personal, more long-term consequences. It would also have affected the plot of Ghost Story (as in, none of it would've happened, which screws Zero and the homeless kids). Demonreach would've remained unclaimed for a while, until someone else rolled along.

Honestly, the list is endless. I've often pointed to this as a pivotal moment in the series.

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