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Marcone altered the time line?
groinkick:
In Dead Beat Harry is saved by Gard, and Marcone. Once in the car Gard tells Marcone "This is a mistake. It was his fate to die in that alley". Marcone replied "What is the point of free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?". Gard said "There will be consequences".
Alright so Gard is clearly not speaking off the cuff about intervening. She's being literal. Harry was supposed to die, and they somehow intervened in a way that they should not have. This means they used future knowledge, or even traveled back in time. Please discuss about what you think it means, and what these consequences will be. Could this actually be one of the factors that allows Mirror Mirror? If Harry had died the other version would obviously not be able to summon him. Perhaps alternate Harry will end up in Prime Harry's reality and cause some major damage.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: groinkick on August 04, 2018, 05:26:44 PM ---In Dead Beat Harry is saved by Gard, and Marcone. Once in the car Gard tells Marcone "This is a mistake. It was his fate to die in that alley". Marcone replied "What is the point of free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?". Gard said "There will be consequences".
Alright so Gard is clearly not speaking off the cuff about intervening. She's being literal. Harry was supposed to die, and they somehow intervened in a way that they should not have. This means they used future knowledge, or even traveled back in time. Please discuss about what you think it means, and what these consequences will be. Could this actually be one of the factors that allows Mirror Mirror? If Harry had died the other version would obviously not be able to summon him. Perhaps alternate Harry will end up in Prime Harry's reality and cause some major damage.
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There's no time travel involved there. Gard's a valkyrie -- a Norse psychopomp, whose job was to choose the dead.
Ergo, she can sense when people (certain people, at least) are going to die.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 04, 2018, 06:12:24 PM ---There's no time travel involved there. Gard's a valkyrie -- a Norse psychopomp, whose job was to choose the dead.
Ergo, she can sense when people (certain people, at least) are going to die.
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Anytime you give someone CPR, or emergency surgery you are preventing death. I don't see there being "consequences" for doing something like that. Why would Marcone mention free will, or destiny by simply saving Dresden unless there was something more significant? Why would Jim even drop info like that unless it meant something? Why would Gard see consequences for saving someone when people are saved from death every minute of every day?
Mr. Death:
It's because the knowledge to intervene came from Gard -- a person whose powers are in tune with Fate.
Harry wasn't just going to die. He was fated to die there and then.
forumghost:
Hell, Gard was probably there specifically to nab Dresden's soul and shove him in a fridge until Odin needed him.
So yeah, saving Harry probably derailed a bunch of events and even caused a split in the timeline (a new one not related to the MM timeline)
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