The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Zoo Day and the great Masquerade
vultur:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 26, 2018, 11:28:58 AM ---When would they have been relevant to think about during Ghost Story?
--- End quote ---
Harry reminisces about his first experiences with magic in GS, it seems like something likely to come up in that context.
But even if Harry didn't happen to think about them then, I think the broader point still holds - that "adults can't know about them" doesn't seem to work well with the existence of absolute knowledge/perfect memory effects in the Dresdenverse.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 26, 2018, 01:04:51 PM --- Given that it apparently affects the "adult" intellect of Mouse and only his Guardian-ness seems to (barely) get past it, it's possible the Creeper's mass protection would count him as Too Old to sense them.
--- End quote ---
Maybe, but that bugs me. Intellectus is supposed to be more absolute than that, I think. Even if Harry's limited version isn't, I mean... how far does the effect extend? If a non-human being with full Intellectus tells an adult human about them, does the human just instantly forget about it?
Angels have full intellectus. What happens if Nicodemus asks Anduriel, "what supernatural entities are within one mile of me"?
EDIT: Even worse... what if a kid writes about the haunts and Ivy picks up the information? When Ivy hits whatever age makes you forget about the haunts, does the information get deleted from the Archive, or reclassified from "nonfiction" to "fiction", or what?
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: vultur on July 27, 2018, 05:52:07 AM ---Harry reminisces about his first experiences with magic in GS, it seems like something likely to come up in that context.
But even if Harry didn't happen to think about them then, I think the broader point still holds - that "adults can't know about them" doesn't seem to work well with the existence of absolute knowledge/perfect memory effects in the Dresdenverse.
--- End quote ---
"Absolute knowledge/perfect memory" that's not available to living adults. Harry didn't get it until he died, and we don't know that he retained it after he lived.
And I'm not sure it's that the can't know about them. Harry knew about the bogeyman in AAAA Wizardry. He couldn't sense it, but he was aware of it.
raidem:
For the Archive, she wouldn't forget the written text on the Haunts. She may forget some of her dealings with them, or at least struggle to remember them exactly.
Wizard Sibelis:
--- Quote from: raidem on July 27, 2018, 02:04:07 PM ---For the Archive, she wouldn't forget the written text on the Haunts. She may forget some of her dealings with them, or at least struggle to remember them exactly.
--- End quote ---
Seems there is something of a disconnect between Ivy and the Archive itself anyway. Clearly a mortal, her own knowledge of countless beings would help stabilize them without it. I've always assumed that the host and mantle interact on what beings are to be forgotten, but that Ivy is shielded from direct knowledge unless intentionally accessed. Like a computer file, she has the name and description of it without actually opening the main portions or sub portions... Possibly she can self purge info back into the Archive itself too.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version