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Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 03, 2018, 03:19:26 PM ---I think it's still a violation, permission or not.

Put it this way -- if someone sticks a knife in me and slices from my bellybutton to my ribcage, it's going to affect me and them in a profound way for days, weeks or even years.

That applies whether it's someone who knifed me during a robbery gone wrong or whether it was a doctor to whom I not only gave explicit permission, but paid good money to do so.

Giving permission doesn't change the nature of the act as an invasion into a place that's not meant to be invaded.

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That is exactly what happens if a surgeon uses his scalpel to remove a stone from your bladder.

peregrine:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 03, 2018, 04:06:16 PM ---A house has doors and such that are intended to be opened and closed to let people in and out.

The human brain does not. The only way for someone to access the information in there is to "break in."

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You can "let someone into your heart."  And if you can get into someone's mind, then obviously you can get out of your own.  Unless it's a theft for you to leave your own mind by your own decision.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 03, 2018, 04:06:16 PM ---A house has doors and such that are intended to be opened and closed to let people in and out.

The human brain does not. The only way for someone to access the information in there is to "break in."

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Your eyes are the doors to your soul, that is how a soul gaze works.

And you can open that door for someone else as we have seen several times. Any help for peabodies victims would have been impossible otherwise. Some of them were changed into walking suicide bombs.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: Arjan on August 03, 2018, 05:22:43 PM ---Your eyes are the doors to your soul, that is how a soul gaze works.

And you can open that door for someone else as we have seen several times. Any help for peabodies victims would have been impossible otherwise. Some of them were changed into walking suicide bombs.

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To the soul, not the mind. And they're a window, not a door -- you can see in, but that doesn't mean you can go in.

And helping Peabody's victims is like the surgery -- yes, you're helping. Yes, they're glad you helped. You still have to, metaphorically speaking, pick the lock to get in.


--- Quote from: peregrine on August 03, 2018, 04:46:38 PM ---You can "let someone into your heart."  And if you can get into someone's mind, then obviously you can get out of your own.  Unless it's a theft for you to leave your own mind by your own decision.
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The heart is also not the mind.

And getting "out" of your own mind isn't an issue. The laws only govern going into someone else's head.

Wizard Sibelis:
Mmm and yet the law specifically cites invading the mind of another, a denotation of force, instead of saying entering into another's mind or even breaking it.

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