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Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 11, 2018, 07:59:25 PM ---The production of the love potion -- and any other potion -- involves using magic. The text is explicit about this.
As the potion is magic, any changes it makes in a person are magical in nature, and thus part of the law. Note in Turn Coat, how Peabody's law violations are centered around his inks, i.e., a potion he concocted to break the laws of magic.
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Actually, Peabody's potion in itself does not violate any laws of magic.
The potion ink is designed to lowered a person's mental defenses. Makes them more vulnerable to manipulation. It does not however, manipulate the person's mind by itself. A wizard has to directly use mind magic to do that.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on August 03, 2018, 06:20:51 AM ---Actually, Peabody's potion in itself does not violate any laws of magic.
The potion ink is designed to lowered a person's mental defenses. Makes them more vulnerable to manipulation. It does not however, manipulate the person's mind by itself. A wizard has to directly use mind magic to do that.
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And even that is not a violation of the law if the wizard has an invitation. It also depends on what the wizard does. Changing or deleting an uncomfortable or even false memory is one thing but enthrallment is always a violation.
Mr. Death:
I think it's still a violation, permission or not.
Put it this way -- if someone sticks a knife in me and slices from my bellybutton to my ribcage, it's going to affect me and them in a profound way for days, weeks or even years.
That applies whether it's someone who knifed me during a robbery gone wrong or whether it was a doctor to whom I not only gave explicit permission, but paid good money to do so.
Giving permission doesn't change the nature of the act as an invasion into a place that's not meant to be invaded.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 03, 2018, 03:19:26 PM ---I think it's still a violation, permission or not.
Put it this way -- if someone sticks a knife in me and slices from my bellybutton to my ribcage, it's going to affect me and them in a profound way for days, weeks or even years.
That applies whether it's someone who knifed me during a robbery gone wrong or whether it was a doctor to whom I not only gave explicit permission, but paid good money to do so.
Giving permission doesn't change the nature of the act as an invasion into a place that's not meant to be invaded.
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How would you feel if you found that someone had broken into your house, sat down on your couch, watched TV, had a shower, maybe poked through your cabinets?
Would you feel as bad if you had a guest over?
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: peregrine on August 03, 2018, 04:05:01 PM ---How would you feel if you found that someone had broken into your house, sat down on your couch, watched TV, had a shower, maybe poked through your cabinets?
Would you feel as bad if you had a guest over?
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A house has doors and such that are intended to be opened and closed to let people in and out.
The human brain does not. The only way for someone to access the information in there is to "break in."
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