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Could Saint Patrick still be running around?
Paviel:
There is something odd about St. Patrick. Bob said that it took the power of "a major heavy-weight sorcerer or a demon lord or one of the faerie queens" to cast the loup-garou curse on even one person, let alone an entire bloodline.
I would assume that St. Patrick's "addenda" to the loup-garou curse on MacFinn (i.e. his entire bloodline is cursed, and it'll never go extinct) would require that much more power besides. But I would think only TWG would have that much power.
Granted, St. Patrick was in league with TWG...
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 25, 2018, 08:11:39 PM ---fwiw, we have WOJ confirming that Vadderung is indeed St Nicholas on top of his Odin and Santa identities. So that's one Saint in the mix. Though can you be a Saint and an actual Deity at the same time? I feel like those should be cognitively incompatible.
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Not at all. Some saints are just continuations of old pagan deities and their festivals are continuations of their worship. Christianisation at some places would have met too much resistance otherwise.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Arjan on June 27, 2018, 02:49:42 PM ---Not at all. Some saints are just continuations of old pagan deities and their festivals are continuations of their worship. Christianisation at some places would have met too much resistance otherwise.
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That's a good point. I was more thinking of it from the magical energy side: if the hallmark of a Saint is magic that is heavily mixed with Faith, but you yourself are the actual Object of that faith, can you manifest that Faith the same way? Does that mean that fanatic self-confidence could, if taken to an extreme, grant Faith energy? Does it only work if you first manage to con(vert) enough followers into buy off on your divinity? Or does it work because the Entity formerly known as Odin just now also has a deep respect for the Abrahamic team that he can Channel /their/ power some of the time, keeping it separate from his own other deific status
Fcrate:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 27, 2018, 05:13:03 PM ---Or does it work because the Entity formerly known as Odin just now also has a deep respect for the Abrahamic team that he can Channel /their/ power some of the time, keeping it separate from his own other deific status
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That would be major league cheating. I like it :D
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 27, 2018, 05:13:03 PM ---That's a good point. I was more thinking of it from the magical energy side: if the hallmark of a Saint is magic that is heavily mixed with Faith, but you yourself are the actual Object of that faith, can you manifest that Faith the same way? Does that mean that fanatic self-confidence could, if taken to an extreme, grant Faith energy? Does it only work if you first manage to con(vert) enough followers into buy off on your divinity? Or does it work because the Entity formerly known as Odin just now also has a deep respect for the Abrahamic team that he can Channel /their/ power some of the time, keeping it separate from his own other deific status
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I think there is a difference between a human that is still alive and might be declared a saint later and the actual entity that is venerated.
That can be just a pagan god with a new career. And as the story changes he will change.
Uriel wouldn’t mind, he is very flexible in those things.
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