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Could Saint Patrick still be running around?

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groinkick:
Jim mentioned that Saints were Wizards using faith based magic.  Well wizards are very long lived.  Would be interesting if Jim let us meet the wizard who cast the werewolf curse and why.  Legend is he did it to people who mocked Christianity, and I read somewhere it was done to a royal family.  Read somewhere else it was done to Pegan's. 

jonas:
I'm going to have to look in my actually book collection because I have forthwith been unable to find reference to in on the E-web. But I have read a pretty good comparison of St. Patrick and Odin/Fenrir. Something to do with how both stories have the same... metaphorical tones? Idk, basically it said they both depicted royalty being subsumed by a beast they'd previously contained or some such... really need to find it. It's the only proof I can think on connecting the Loup as Fenrir outside of the possibly ill said prophecy on the end of days and the dying out of the cursed line. But it also gives heavy implications on the idea Patrick cursed himself to contain the beast, which then figuratively consumed him.
*could maybe be in one of the histories of the multiple St. Patrick's somewhere...

groinkick:

--- Quote from: jonas on June 25, 2018, 06:35:20 PM ---I'm going to have to look in my actually book collection because I have forthwith been unable to find reference to in on the E-web. But I have read a pretty good comparison of St. Patrick and Odin/Fenrir. Something to do with how both stories have the same... metaphorical tones? Idk, basically it said they both depicted royalty being subsumed by a beast they'd previously contained or some such... really need to find it. It's the only proof I can think on connecting the Loup as Fenrir outside of the possibly ill said prophecy on the end of days and the dying out of the cursed line. But it also gives heavy implications on the idea Patrick cursed himself to contain the beast, which then figuratively consumed him.
*could maybe be in one of the histories of the multiple St. Patrick's somewhere...

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Interesting.  I could see Odin doing something like that.

Quantus:
fwiw, we have WOJ confirming that Vadderung is indeed St Nicholas on top of his Odin and Santa identities.  So that's one Saint in the mix.  Though can you be a Saint and an actual Deity at the same time?  I feel like those should be cognitively incompatible. 

peregrine:
Though if it's Odin, then he's not a Saint as described by Jim.

Actually related to the Dresden Files though, it's possible, especially if he's a Wizard+Faith Saint and not just a Canonized by the Church Saint, but there's no real evidence to support it.  St Patrick was active around three centuries before Rashid whacked Alhazred which means he'd most likely have to be using the same (or similar) temporal shenanigans to still be around.

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