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raidem:
I was thinking through that too while writing.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Quantus on April 27, 2018, 01:08:15 PM ---I used to think that too (Similar to that thing that time in Thomas Covenant), but this WOJ blew it out of the water for me:

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The thing about that woj though, is it's connected to said powers, it makes no mention if said powers are themselves sentient... Look at the wolf belts, they channel a spirit of rage, they are literally described as an insulation. Compare that to Macfinn who's manifestation lacks any insulation between the two, creating a... 4 dimensional being metaphorically speaking. I think He can tap those powers until there is no insulation(think here of the insulation of mantles from the conscious mind) between the two (click to show/hide) becoming hwwbh... as he did as soon as he found Harry outside of Justin's Aegis of protection/concealment. The Mock outrage at Harry's insult/assault by either of them... I think He was there to test and push Harry himself, as soon as he could find him. Note Lea did nothing to help for that part either, you'd think a fricken fairy of winter would react to seeing such a threat even without the Godmother status, yea know? other stuff I've talked about before... the Farmer, the Scything motion of the cattle, ect.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: jonas on May 11, 2018, 02:43:51 PM ---The thing about that woj though, is it's connected to said powers, it makes no mention if said powers are themselves sentient... Look at the wolf belts, they channel a spirit of rage, they are literally described as an insulation. Compare that to Macfinn who's manifestation lacks any insulation between the two, creating a... 4 dimensional being metaphorically speaking. I think He can tap those powers until there is no insulation(think here of the insulation of mantles from the conscious mind) between the two (click to show/hide) becoming hwwbh... as he did as soon as he found Harry outside of Justin's Aegis of protection/concealment. The Mock outrage at Harry's insult/assault by either of them... I think He was there to test and push Harry himself, as soon as he could find him. Note Lea did nothing to help for that part either, you'd think a fricken fairy of winter would react to seeing such a threat even without the Godmother status, yea know? other stuff I've talked about before... the Farmer, the Scything motion of the cattle, ect.

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Oh sure Im quite confident the Powers it is connected to is sentient (in general and especially since I think it's Mother Winter).  But Groinkick was theorizing that the staff itself was sentient and specifically was a Walker doing a really good Stick Impression. The WOJ /does/ specify that the object itself, the Blackstaff, is not itself sentient. Even the Gates are more sentient than that according to at least one WOJ. 

jonas:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 11, 2018, 03:27:02 PM ---Oh sure Im quite confident the Powers it is connected to is sentient (in general and especially since I think it's Mother Winter).  But Groinkick was theorizing that the staff itself was sentient and specifically was a Walker doing a really good Stick Impression. The WOJ /does/ specify that the object itself, the Blackstaff, is not itself sentient. Even the Gates are more sentient than that according to at least one WOJ.

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That's not you thinking it's connected to MW as her walking stick is it? Cause the thing is, it's still just a stick in her hands then and she's not missing anything. Except she's rather crippled and needed it to get around, giving it something unique over her own self as well. The cosmic power inherent in it seems to me to allow her to travel vs anything she's already capable of. Something in somewhat contradiction to how Eb utilizes it... Thoughts on that one?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: jonas on May 11, 2018, 10:41:10 PM ---That's not you thinking it's connected to MW as her walking stick is it? Cause the thing is, it's still just a stick in her hands then and she's not missing anything. Except she's rather crippled and needed it to get around, giving it something unique over her own self as well. The cosmic power inherent in it seems to me to allow her to travel vs anything she's already capable of. Something in somewhat contradiction to how Eb utilizes it... Thoughts on that one?

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My current working theory on the Blackstaff is that it is indeed Mother Winter's Walking Stick, and that it does constitute a noticeable chunk of her power being carved off for a specific purpose (not unlike the Knight Mantle itself).  Given how powerful she is, and the stated /fact/ that she actively wants it back, I think the only way she wouldnt already have it is if she were bound by some promise/bargain.  We know (per Bob) that each of the Three Queens has distinct uses for the Knight; who is himself the little ball of Mortal Free Will they keep around as a walking Loophole for various Cosmic limitations.  So, I think Mothers use is a rare one, but that on occasion she has need to Empower a /Mortal/ Champion (likely her Knight at the time) for some task or purpose that Requires a Free Will (which seems rather common at that tier of power).  I think that last time she did this, said champion pulled a Caesar and reinterpreted the wording of the deal such that s/he didnt have to give it back when Mother Winter expected them to. 


Fwiw, a big corollary theory to this is that I think that, since the whole Purpose of Winter is Anti-Outsider, and the Blackstaff protects it's user from the warping effect of Black Magic (that is entirely supernatural and distinct from the normal trauma of such acts), I think that some sort of supernatural corruption seeps in whenever a mortal Chooses to Use Magic to break the 7 most foundational pillars of the Universe (Life, Death, Time, Free Will, etc) they create a tiny crack in the Universe that allows just a little bit of Outsider get Inside (may or may not be distinct effect from Nemesis Infection that we've seen on the Fae)

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